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Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:19 pm
by pbar
Just wondering if anyone has a pair of good condition tailgate struts please. The ball fitment type for a Laser. Thanks.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:49 pm
by andyd
I bought from Martin http://www.fordcapriforum.com/forum/vie ... hp?t=50790

Worth a try he may still have them? If not these on Ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304248575887 ... Sw3FZdlu~A

:goodluck:

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:55 pm
by pbar
Thank you Andy. Please see reply to you in the other section :)

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:59 pm
by Andrew 2.8i
Hi Paul,
CCI offer replacements on an exchange basis.
https://www.capriclub.co.uk/Tailgate_St ... t--32.html

:goodluck:
Andrew.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:12 pm
by pbar
Andrew 2.8i wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 12:59 pm Hi Paul,
CCI offer replacements on an exchange basis.
https://www.capriclub.co.uk/Tailgate_St ... t--32.html

:goodluck:
Andrew.

Thanks Andrew. I did glance at that earlier but it states that it depends on re-gassing your current ones, and I assume CCI would have the same issues as SGS, or I wonder if CCI even send them to SGS to have them done. Which would mean the same issue, I send them mine and have to pay to get them back ungassed again?

It's very confusing actually.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:10 pm
by Andrew 2.8i
pbar wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:12 pm Thanks Andrew. I did glance at that earlier but it states that it depends on re-gassing your current ones, and I assume CCI would have the same issues as SGS, or I wonder if CCI even send them to SGS to have them done. Which would mean the same issue, I send them mine and have to pay to get them back ungassed again?

It's very confusing actually.
The way I understand it, you buy a pair of struts at the higher price. You then send them yours and, on successful regassing of your old units, they reimburse you the surcharge.
It did cross my mind that they would send them off to SGS, but they would presumably receive the same negative response that you received from them.
You could always call CCI to discuss any questions you may have.

If you buy a second hand set of struts that have not recently been regassed, they may not be much better than the ones you currently have.

Andrew.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:25 pm
by pbar
Andrew 2.8i wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:10 pm
The way I understand it, you buy a pair of struts at the higher price. You then send them yours and, on successful regassing of your old units, they reimburse you the surcharge.

If you buy a second hand set of struts that have not recently been regassed, they may not be much better than the ones you currently have.

Yes I've been re-reading that again from CCI, and as you rightly say, you get the reimbursement if they regas them, which I assume, would fail. So that leaves me the option of simply buying them from CCI, which I think are a whopping £120 plus postage.

If I did buy 'proper' Capri ones from elsewhere I'd have to check with the seller that they are working, as you rightly point out. I did buy a pair from someone on here, as replacements for my original ones, and they were fine. However, that was circe 2013 and they've also grown weak now.

To continue a running in joke on here, I don't think the CCI ones are reasonable! But the ebay ones Andy linked to at £39 are reasonable. Just need to check on how the electrical tabs fasten to those.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:32 pm
by Andrew 2.8i
pbar wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:25 pm But the ebay ones Andy linked to at £39 are reasonable. Just need to check on how the electrical tabs fasten to those.
The worst case scenario is that you can join the two electrical connectors with a length of wire.
It's not a neat solution, but will work and is certainly cheap.
The Ebay seller states that the struts are conductive, it's just a matter of fixing the male spade connectors in position.

Andrew.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:35 pm
by pbar
Andrew 2.8i wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:32 pm
pbar wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:25 pm But the ebay ones Andy linked to at £39 are reasonable. Just need to check on how the electrical tabs fasten to those.
The worst case scenario is that you can join the two electrical connectors with a length of wire.
It's not a neat solution, but will work and is certainly cheap.
The Ebay seller states that the struts are conductive, it's just a matter of fixing the male spade connectors in position.

Andrew.
Yes I could fabricate/bodge a way, I just like to retain originality though really, if possible. That's something which will only get harder as these cars grow older I know.

I have asked that ebay seller about the tabs, and he wrongly states that you unscrew the electrical tab from the old one and reposition on the new one. So that puts me off a little bit as it's just not right. They are ringed connectors which are sandwiched in place but I don't see how that can apply on the 'thin' end of the ebay struts as they are not the same. But still, I could fashion something, would probably be worth it as they are cheap enough, if they work.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:43 pm
by Andrew 2.8i
pbar wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:35 pm I have asked that ebay seller about the tabs, and he wrongly states that you unscrew the electrical tab from the old one and reposition on the new one. So that puts me off a little bit as it's just not right. They are ringed connectors which are sandwiched in place but I don't see how that can apply on the 'thin' end of the ebay struts as they are not the same.
Could you use a die to make a short length of thread and use a nut to hold the ringed connector in place?

Andrew.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:49 pm
by pbar
That would seem a viable solution Andrew. A suitably sized star washer would achieve the same result too. Or even just electrical tape wrapped around the end, this would actually emulate the originals as they have a black plastic/rubber sleeve which the ringed connector is sandwiched against. This sleeve may even come off I don't know yet.

I have asked Martin if he has options too, then I'll decide what to buy.

Seems like many owners have had tailgate strut quandaries, it would be nice to find an all encompassing solution or two.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:52 pm
by D366Y
pbar wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:25 pm

To continue a running in joke on here, I don't think the CCI ones are reasonable! But the ebay ones Andy linked to at £39 are reasonable. Just need to check on how the electrical tabs fasten to those.
That is certainly not reasonable!
For £120 I'd hope they'd be plated in some kind of precious metal at least??

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:57 pm
by Andrew 2.8i
D366Y wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:52 pm That is certainly not reasonable!
Depends on who you ask ! :xd:

Andrew.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:02 pm
by pbar
D366Y wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:52 pm For £120 I'd hope they'd be plated in some kind of precious metal at least??

And I've just checked and it's a whopping £18 for postage too. Granted, you do get £50 back if they can re-use your old ones. Although you would have to pay to send them there (which cost me around £6 with tracking to send to SGS so not sure where CCI get £18 from) and if they fail to regas then I assume you would have to pay £18 again to have them sent back.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:03 pm
by pbar
Andrew 2.8i wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:57 pm
D366Y wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:52 pm That is certainly not reasonable!
Depends on who you ask ! :xd:

Andrew.

I know who NOT to ask! :)

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:33 pm
by Andrew 2.8i
These look identical to the Ebay ones, are the correct size and are £4 cheaper.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Springs-Conver ... C63&sr=8-3

Andrew.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:08 pm
by pbar
Even more reasonable! Thanks Andrew, I appreciate it. Yes they do seem very similar to the ebay ones. Certainly another viable option.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:43 pm
by D366Y
pbar wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:03 pm
Andrew 2.8i wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:57 pm
D366Y wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:52 pm That is certainly not reasonable!
Depends on who you ask ! :xd:

Andrew.

I know who NOT to ask! :)
What I do now know is that I need whatever job Andrew has - apparently he makes millions!! :lol:

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:26 pm
by Andrew 2.8i
D366Y wrote: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:43 pm What I do now know is that I need whatever job Andrew has - apparently he makes millions!! :lol:
There's always plenty of jobs going - because it's the home of the oppressed and impoverished worker! :D

Andrew.

Re: Tailgate Struts

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 7:16 pm
by Not_Anumber
Have you tried Capri Jake on the other forum. I got a set from him a couple of years ago, just had to swap over the electrical connectors and ends from the old ones and it was done. The tailgate opens half an inch or so higher than with the original gas struts which is no bad thing.