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Air con

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:39 pm
by Mc Tool
Did any of the later model Capris have air con factory fitted. I have a 3.9 serp motor with the air con compressor fitted and I figured may as well have air con if I can as it will be a pita to remove compressor and fashion some sort of idler pulley .

Re: Air con

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:47 pm
by Mr B
Hi MC,

I bought a 3 litre Capri years ago that had A/C on it, not sure whether it was a factory option but the conversion was excellently done, the air con compressor/pulley was mounted between the water pump and alternator, inside the car the unit/air vents were just below where the ash tray is, really nice job,

Wayne

Re: Air con

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:32 am
by Mc Tool
I was thinkin of using the side swivel outlets for the cool air, also thinkin I could fit a shuttle valve and turn the heater into a heating/cooling unit.......do away with the coolant side of things and fit the evaporator/condenser where the heater matrix is now 🤔🤔

Re: Air con

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:44 am
by T.M.
Hi,
if I´m right only Tickford Capri had originally A/C. But it wasn´t "factory" Capri too much. :-)


Tom

Re: Air con

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:47 am
by Bug
T.M. wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:44 am Hi,
if I´m right only Tickford Capri had originally A/C. But it wasn´t "factory" Capri too much. :-)


Tom
Tickford didn't have it as standard. Not sure if anyone ever specced it, but never been in one that did have it.

I seem to remember the older Haynes manuals showed an air-con set up, but it was a completely different heater unit.
I'd assume a more common option on the 'Federal' Capris over the pond with our colonial cousins?

Ask around and see who has that version of the Haynes manual to give you an idea what's needed.

All my 30+ Capris had the basic air-con. It was well ahead of its time as it could be changed between driver and passenger sides and each had their own controls. A simple rotary handle on the door card. Bit like a shower tap, the further you turned it, the cooler it got. ;)

Re: Air con

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:27 am
by stevemarl
Bug wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:47 am I seem to remember the older Haynes manuals showed an air-con set up, but it was a completely different heater unit.
I'd assume a more common option on the 'Federal' Capris over the pond with our colonial cousins?

Ask around and see who has that version of the Haynes manual to give you an idea what's needed.
I`ve got the Haynes but apart from some mention in dismantling the dash (apparently the `unit` is fixed to the lower RH dash - so the LH in a RHD car)
and the ccircuit diagram. No further info I`m afraid. Maybe look for Mercury Capri brochure? There was an American on Capripower, he might know.
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EDIT:
found a bit more (in `bodywork` section!)
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Re: Air con

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:54 am
by Bug
I think you're right. Been years since I saw the manual and it appears I may have got confused with the HD heater assembly.
I'll get back in my box. :?

Re: Air con

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:58 am
by stevemarl
Martin, no, to be fair - I had no recollection of it at all, so you must get at leastb 9.5/10 :D

Re: Air con

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:56 am
by Bug
stevemarl wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 10:58 am Martin, no, to be fair - I had no recollection of it at all, so you must get at leastb 9.5/10 :D
Cheers mate.
Doing your bit for care in the community. :D

Re: Air con

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:28 pm
by Mc Tool
Bug wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:47 am

All my 30+ Capris had the basic air-con. It was well ahead of its time as it could be changed between driver and passenger sides and each had their own controls. A simple rotary handle on the door card. Bit like a shower tap, the further you turned it, the cooler it got. ;)

Yeah , that might work in old blighty but it gets hot here 😆,and winding down the window when its 30⁰c relies totally on wind chill ......like 25⁰ , and the feckin heater doesnt actually turn off , actually I think the only time I get hot air is when its 30⁰🥵 and I dont want it,certainly dont get much when its - 4⁰🥶

Re: Air con

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:51 pm
by Andrew 2.8i
Wow, who knew?
Has anybody actually seen a Capri with factory fitted A/C though?

As an aside, my Hayne's Manual makes no mention of air conditioning equipment.

Andrew.

Re: Air con

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:30 am
by T.M.
Bug wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:47 am Tickford didn't have it as standard. Not sure if anyone ever specced it, but never been in one that did have it.

I seem to remember the older Haynes manuals showed an air-con set up, but it was a completely different heater unit.
I'd assume a more common option on the 'Federal' Capris over the pond with our colonial cousins?
Yep, Tickford didn't have A/C on the option list either, like you say:
http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy14 ... kford3.jpg

So I was not right, sorry. ;) But somewhere on internet I saw Tickford with A/C. How it looks like it wasn´t factory fitted.


Tom

Re: Air con

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:23 pm
by snizeldelabmx
Andrew 2.8i wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:51 pm Wow, who knew?
Has anybody actually seen a Capri with factory fitted A/C though?

As an aside, my Hayne's Manual makes no mention of air conditioning equipment.

Andrew.
Hi Andrew, i know one down here in south Spain, factory fitted AC in a late 2.8 and I have to say it cools great!!!

Re: Air con

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 6:16 am
by AGD4692
US market Capri's (in Ghia spec) had factory fitted a/c. European Capri's didn't even offer it as an option, when my father purchased my Ghia in 1979, the first thing he asked for was a/c. Salesman said n/a, father replied "I can wait for a special order", didn't happen

On the US cars, The controls were neatly integrated under the radio, it's a completely different control unit to the European cars. The rear bulkhead on all Capri's actually has the "templates" on the panel itself where the pressure pipes would pass through the bulkhead towards the heater box. Looking at the car "face on" they're on the lower left section , near the speedo cable exit in right hand drive cars

A friend here in Greece has a mk3 3.0S with a/c. Under the bonnet it all looks factory, it's easy to fit, he "opened" the templates mentioned above. Inside however, the unit sits under the ashtray, it's about 40cm wide and about 10cm high.

Have to admit it works fine in the Greek heat, but appearance wise, it's not for me

I have a picture of it somewhere, I'll post it when I find it.

Re: Air con

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 4:21 pm
by AGD4692
Picture of USA Capri Ghia with dealer fitted aircon,

Re: Air con

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2022 5:45 am
by cabaret
Sorry to revive an old thread but can you show me exactly where these templates are because I've never seen them

Re: Air con

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2022 7:24 pm
by AGD4692
they're easier to see from the inside of the car, I'll elaborate...

if you fold back the carpet behind the pedals, just above the clutch pedal, the sound deadening pad has the templates ready to be cut.

I'll ask my friend for pictures from both the interior and exterior and post them.