Rear axle problems
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Rear axle problems
Hello, boys. We have problem with our MK1 Capri. I will show you with some pictures
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Re: Rear axle problems
Did they fit before the car was restored? Are they the same anti tramp bars and the same axle that were on the car before it was restored?
It could be that the Atlas(Cologne) axle needs longer arms.
It could be that the Atlas(Cologne) axle needs longer arms.
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Re: Rear axle problems
Everything is the same. Only sandblasted and painted. New rubbers mounted.The rear axle can't move ahead and we can't put the bolts from the both sides. The leafsprings are connected to the body and to the rear axle. And now can't push it ahead to put the bolts.
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Re: Rear axle problems
What are the steps for mouting rear suspention ? Assemble the leafsprings to the rear axle and than together to the body? We made it like that but now can't reach these two bolts.
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Re: Rear axle problems
Longshot - have you got the leaf springs on back to front?
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Re: Rear axle problems
I usually put the front spring bolt in first, then the rear as there is some movement in the shackle. I attach the U-bolts after that, either way it shouldn't make much difference.vessomitkov wrote:What are the steps for mouting rear suspention ? Assemble the leafsprings to the rear axle and than together to the body? We made it like that but now can't reach these two bolts.
Will the holes line up better if you jack up the axle a little?
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Exactly what I was about to say.Paul G wrote:Longshot - have you got the leaf springs on back to front?
Cannot think of any other variables that could affect it.
to be honest, I was more surprised that it wasn't a Timken axle
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Re: Rear axle problems
The leaf springs are corectly positioned. When the car is down the distance is the same. The axle must go ahead. Maybe the U bolts are the problem.
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Re: Rear axle problems
Have you measured the leaf springs, one side is longer than the other, that is the point where the axle clamps to the springs is not in the exact middle.
Presumably your prop shaft does not meet up properly at the moment either?
Presumably your prop shaft does not meet up properly at the moment either?
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Re: Rear axle problems
Hi All,
I''ve measured my springs, albeit singles and not multileaf as shown in the photo, and found that the distance from the centre of the mounting bolt to the centre of the u-bolt plate is 71cm on the long side and the same measurement on the shorter side is only 48cm. With that difference in mind, it looks to me as if the sprngs in the photo are fitted the correct way around.
Andrew.
I''ve measured my springs, albeit singles and not multileaf as shown in the photo, and found that the distance from the centre of the mounting bolt to the centre of the u-bolt plate is 71cm on the long side and the same measurement on the shorter side is only 48cm. With that difference in mind, it looks to me as if the sprngs in the photo are fitted the correct way around.
Andrew.
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OK, so assuming they are the correct way round, maybe the axle is not located properly by the bolts through the centre of the springs.Andrew 2.8i wrote:Hi All,
I''ve measured my springs, albeit singles and not multileaf as shown in the photo, and found that the distance from the centre of the mounting bolt to the centre of the u-bolt plate is 71cm on the long side and the same measurement on the shorter side is only 48cm. With that difference in mind, it looks to me as if the sprngs in the photo are fitted the correct way around.
Andrew.
If you take everything apart, keep all the same items and then bolt them back together, it doesn't seem feasible that it won't meet up.
Something has been physically changed somewhere.
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Re: Rear axle problems
Nothing new except the rubbers.
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Re: Rear axle problems
Last thing I can think of to try is to loosen the u-bolt nuts until they are only a few threads on then drop the whole car down until it's weight is entirely on axle stands with the stands under the axle tubes. Put a bit of old carpet on the axle stands so not to damage your paint. Get some helpers to push down on the back of the car to raise the axle position even more whilst getting someone else to try pulling the diff down by the propshaft (driveshaft) flange.
This might raise and rotate the axle enough to get the bolts in.
This might raise and rotate the axle enough to get the bolts in.
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Re: Rear axle problems
Bit of a strange one this....
So the only new components are the rubbers. Some of the holes in the rubbers look like they are off-set. Are they definitely the correct bushes and are they fitted in the correct locations?
So the only new components are the rubbers. Some of the holes in the rubbers look like they are off-set. Are they definitely the correct bushes and are they fitted in the correct locations?
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Re: Rear axle problems
The arbs aren't the wrong way round are they?
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Re: Rear axle problems
More weight in the boot of the car!
If you reduce the internal angle of the triangle as measured at the 'Front Spring Eye - X' then the distance from that point (X) to the 'Rearmost Arm Bush - Y ' will increase as the internal angle at the 'Bush on the Front of the Arm - Z' becomes larger.
To put it another way, the distance between X and Y will increase as you lift the locating bar upwards.
If you reduce the internal angle of the triangle as measured at the 'Front Spring Eye - X' then the distance from that point (X) to the 'Rearmost Arm Bush - Y ' will increase as the internal angle at the 'Bush on the Front of the Arm - Z' becomes larger.
To put it another way, the distance between X and Y will increase as you lift the locating bar upwards.
Re: Rear axle problems
nigecapri wrote:More weight in the boot of the car!
If you reduce the internal angle of the triangle as measured at the 'Front Spring Eye - X' then the distance from that point (X) to the 'Rearmost Arm Bush - Y ' will increase as the internal angle at the 'Bush on the Front of the Arm - Z' becomes larger.
To put it another way, the distance between X and Y will increase as you lift the locating bar upwards.
Yup, good point.
In all my calculations I was assuming (incorrectly) that the axle would just move straight up.
But the swinging nature of the rear hangers will allow the axle to move forwards too.
A photo showing the rear hangers would probably show them to be angled backwards a bit at the moment, whereas, in normal use on the road, they tend to angle forward a little. And, of course, move forwards and backwards as the loads on the moving car change.
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Re: Rear axle problems
Has anyone fitted Caltracs to atlas axle Capri? Any pics?
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Re: Rear axle problems
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