Laser 1600

Use this forum to post threads of ongoing Capri projects and restorations.
Cosmicbike
Posts: 18
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:47 pm
Car(s): Ford Capri 1.6 Laser Resto Project

Re: Laser 1600

Postby Cosmicbike » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:17 pm

Decision time is coming. The head will be coming off in the next week or 2 so I can replace the stem seals and lap the valves while it's out. I'll oil fill test the bores at the same time as final confirmation that I believe the rings are OK.
But... The camshaft is an unknown, and I don't like unknowns. I'm veering towards buying a 2ltr camshaft and replacing whilst the head is off, at least that way I know what I've got, and the 2ltr cam is apparently a good way to get a bit more from the 1600 lump (it already has 32/36 Weber, need to confirm the inlet manifold is a 2ltr too).
What do we reckon?

User avatar
Peter-S
Donator
Donator
Posts: 6455
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:57 am
Car(s): 1985 Capri 2.0
1983 Capri 2.8i
Location: Kent
Contact:

Re: Laser 1600

Postby Peter-S » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:16 am

Cosmicbike wrote:need to confirm the inlet manifold is a 2ltr too


I did drive a 1600 with a 2.0 cam once, it certainly had a bit more go than a standard 1600.

I could be wrong but I don't think the inlet manifolds differ between 1600 and 2000
ImageBanner by Peter Smith, on Flickr

Mc Tool
Posts: 578
Joined: Sat May 17, 2014 8:34 pm
Car(s): 1980 mk3 capri 2l ohc T9 , Toyota Blade Master 3.5l V6, Paso , 850T,rd400, 900ss
Location: Invercargill New Zealand

Re: Laser 1600

Postby Mc Tool » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:11 am

I have (had) a stock 2l and when doing the motor up I fitted a stock ford cam (got it cheap ) and I set the timing so the intake lobe center angle was 108 Deg atdc. Real good low mid range power , tows a trailer easily ,gets 40mpg,still does the ton ,only downside is that if runs out of puff at about 5 grand. While you have the valves out it is of great benefit to smoothen out the area directly above and below the valve seat. I used a 1/2 worn flapwheel to do the port side of the seat, just smoothen the transition from port to seat. On tother side of seat (in the chamber) I used Emery tape and index finger to smoothen the transition . You don't need to remove much metal and this will improve low valve lift air flow ( valves spend way more time at low lift than they do full open ). If your fitting hardened seats just get the seats fitted ,then do the mod and then go back to machine shop and get the seats finish cut. :burnout:
I have the patience of a saint ........Saint cnuty Mc Fuckoff

User avatar
D366Y
Donator
Donator
Posts: 985
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:26 pm
Car(s): 1986 Laser 1.6, runaround project
1981 GL Auto 2.0, Barn-Find-Resto
1980 3.0S, crash damage resto

Currently full up and no more space but I still want a 2.8...
Location: South Bucks

Re: Laser 1600

Postby D366Y » Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:10 pm

a 2L cam will definitely liven up the engine a bit, I noticed a difference for sure when I changed up from a standard 1600 cam - depends how much you want to improve it by? Could always go one step further and get a Kent FR32 cam?

Cosmicbike
Posts: 18
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:47 pm
Car(s): Ford Capri 1.6 Laser Resto Project

Re: Laser 1600

Postby Cosmicbike » Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:08 pm

D366Y wrote:a 2L cam will definitely liven up the engine a bit, I noticed a difference for sure when I changed up from a standard 1600 cam - depends how much you want to improve it by? Could always go one step further and get a Kent FR32 cam?


It's more about knowing what's in it, though a little upgrade is nice which the 2ltr cam should provide. Not looking for all out performance, it is only a 1600 at the end of the day.
Gasket set and bolts etc arrived today, along with a set of CVH stem seals. Hope to get some time in next week to start pulling it apart, if I can get the engine running nicely then the brakes will get a check over and it's likely to be taxed for the Summer. The welding will have to wait!

User avatar
Fordoholic Nick
Donator
Donator
Posts: 4195
Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:40 pm
Car(s): Ford Capri 2.0 Laser,
Ford Fiesta 1.6 TDCi
Location: Enfield, London

Re: Laser 1600

Postby Fordoholic Nick » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:37 pm

Cosmicbike wrote:Hopefully this works..

Image


A belated :welcome: to the forum fella. :)

Lovely looking Capri mate and always great to see another Pinto here. Sounds like its deffo in safe hands with you and will be back on the road in all its glory....after you finish the house jobs of course :lol:

Living near Brooklands you should pop along to the 50th in Sept to say hi to us as we will have a good number of forum members there.

All the best and good luck with your Laser 1600. It is a late one isn't it. Very cool. :cool:
I was born a Fordoholic, They'll bury me a Fordoholic...

Cosmicbike
Posts: 18
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:47 pm
Car(s): Ford Capri 1.6 Laser Resto Project

Re: Laser 1600

Postby Cosmicbike » Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:51 pm

Fordoholic Nick wrote:
Cosmicbike wrote:Hopefully this works..

Image


A belated :welcome: to the forum fella. :)

Lovely looking Capri mate and always great to see another Pinto here. Sounds like its deffo in safe hands with you and will be back on the road in all its glory....after you finish the house jobs of course :lol:

Living near Brooklands you should pop along to the 50th in Sept to say hi to us as we will have a good number of forum members there.

All the best and good luck with your Laser 1600. It is a late one isn't it. Very cool. :cool:


Thanks. Getting more and more boxes of bits arriving almost daily :lol: I'm off work for the Brooklands do so will be along, whether the car is on the road or not is a different matter....

Cosmicbike
Posts: 18
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:47 pm
Car(s): Ford Capri 1.6 Laser Resto Project

Re: Laser 1600

Postby Cosmicbike » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:02 pm

Little bit of time between paint coats and the F1 highlights today, so out with 'no name yet' and I figured I'd whip the wheels off and see what the underside of the wings etc looked like.
Image

Receipts suggested new calipers in 2017 along with pads which seems to be the case. The discs are OK but have a hefty ridge, so on the cards for a change in the future.

Once I'd cleared half of the English countryside worth of mud from under the arch, the bottom of the A post doesn't look too bad, certainly in the realms of a repair panel
Image


Looking forwards towards the front valance, and it looks like I'll only need to remove 1 bolt to get the wing off as it's held together with a mixture of fibreglass matting and old shopping bags!!
Image

Both nearside and offside are very much the same, though the strap joining the inner and outer wings (as per 2nd pic above) is broken on the NS, any idea's where I can get one?

Moving to the rear, not all bad, the arches seem OK, will need lower rear repair panels I think
Image

And finally, looking forward. The last 150mm or so of the sills looks to have been replaced, and there is evidence of a small repair
Image

A couple more things on the to do list. The rear springs look OK, the car seems to sit OK but they need a good brush down. N/S/F shock is leaking oil.

Head off next time I get to play. Discovered the current bolts are splined which means I should be able to re-used (though have new torx ones anyway). Anybody know what size splined bit I need for the head bolts?

Oh, the OSR wheel has been painted. Badly. Grey. And green in a previous life based on the inside of it :lol:

User avatar
Andrew 2.8i
Donator
Donator
Posts: 12014
Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:38 pm
Car(s): '83 2.8 Injection (sunny days only)
'04 Toyota MR2 (owned from new)
Location: Ceredigion
Contact:

Re: Laser 1600

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:04 pm

Hi,
Great work going on there. Nice one!
Cosmicbike wrote: the strap joining the inner and outer wings (as per 2nd pic above) is broken on the NS, any idea's where I can get one?

I'm sure that I've seen those on the CCI website, although I can't check as the site appears to be down.
I also found some more on Ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Capri-M ... XQueRRYv7B

Andrew.

Edit: Thinking about it, it might be a better idea to ditch those brackets and fit the mudshields from the 2.8 instead. That will help keep the mud thrown up by the front wheels collecting inside the wing.
Image

User avatar
Jasonmarie
Donator
Donator
Posts: 2185
Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:30 am
Car(s): Ford Capri 2.0 Laser Mercury Grey 1987 hobby
Mercedes Vito Traveline 2.2 Big Bus Daily Driver
Location: Kent

Re: Laser 1600

Postby Jasonmarie » Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:09 pm

Funny how things were fixed many moons ago just to get threw the MOT , best of luck with the work and thanks for sharing :beer:
Ford Capri 2.0 Laser 1987 Mercury Grey ....... :beer:

Cosmicbike
Posts: 18
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:47 pm
Car(s): Ford Capri 1.6 Laser Resto Project

Re: Laser 1600

Postby Cosmicbike » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:16 pm

Andrew 2.8i wrote:Hi,
Great work going on there. Nice one!
Cosmicbike wrote: the strap joining the inner and outer wings (as per 2nd pic above) is broken on the NS, any idea's where I can get one?

I'm sure that I've seen those on the CCI website, although I can't check as the site appears to be down.
I also found some more on Ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Capri-M ... XQueRRYv7B

Andrew.

Edit: Thinking about it, it might be a better idea to ditch those brackets and fit the mudshields from the 2.8 instead. That will help keep the mud thrown up by the front wheels collecting inside the wing.


Thanks for the link, couldn't find them for looking! Mud sheilds are on the list, so if they replace the other bit then that saves me a few pennies.

Cosmicbike
Posts: 18
Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:47 pm
Car(s): Ford Capri 1.6 Laser Resto Project

Re: Laser 1600

Postby Cosmicbike » Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:17 pm

Jasonmarie wrote:Funny how things were fixed many moons ago just to get threw the MOT , best of luck with the work and thanks for sharing :beer:


Takes me back to my Mk1 Fiesta and Sierra days :) This does have an MOT, with an advisory for 'minor body corrosion' :D