2.8 Shell Project

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Hot_Protein » Sat Oct 28, 2017 1:45 pm

I need to update my project so here it goes...

I can't get a chassis tilter to fit in my garage because of my stupid door. I bought a super tall tool box from Halfrauds and my garage door wouldn't close :( .

I had been thinking of selling the shell and all my other parts but then I thought maybe I should go the easier route of fitting standard parts. However, these parts are not too easy to find and find for a reasonable price. I have given up on a LSD axle for now but even a standard crappy one is £300 these days. I have been trying to price up the parts I would need to just get it rolling and it's in the region of £2000.

What I would ideally like, as it was originally a 2.8 is a 2.8 engine and box, front legs, lsd axle and an injection tank. I can't find a 2.8, 2.9 or BOA/BOB engine and the gearboxes aren't exactly in abundance let alone a T5. The Injection tanks have always been sought after so non injection tank seems to be the way forward and I guess some sort of swirl pot affair. I might as well buy after market front struts and the single leafs are £180 a pair.

Does anyone have any ideas about the best place to look for these parts or is building a 2.8 from a shell a stupid idea?

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:22 pm

Hi,
I'm glad to hear that you're still working away on the project!
If it helps, CCI are soon to start selling reproduction 2.8 petrol tanks. No word on anticipated price yet though.

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Hot_Protein » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:05 pm

Thanks.
That is awesome news. Shame it's the Capri Club doing them though. Just been on their site and it's a little expensive! It's good to know I can get a LSD for a standard axle though. Where's the best place to get the single leaf springs? I have seen them from £160 a pair to the price that CCI want.

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:41 pm

Hot_Protein wrote: Where's the best place to get the single leaf springs?

Burton sell a pair of singles for £188 but that includes P&P. The Burton ones are British made, whereas Tickover say theirs are made in Sweden. Whether that makes a difference or not, I don't know.
http://www.burtonpower.com/leaf-spring- ... or028.html
The CCI ones are £165 + P&P with the member's discount.

I'm sure that Martin at Capri Gear will also be able to supply a pair and also offer some advice on quality, if required.

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:48 pm

There's an original 2.8 fuel tank on Ebay:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-capri-2 ... 0005.m1851

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Hot_Protein » Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:52 pm

That's very helpful thanks. How did you find out about the injection tanks? Maybe I should start hounding CCI about it.

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:17 pm

Hot_Protein wrote:That's very helpful thanks. How did you find out about the injection tanks? Maybe I should start hounding CCI about it.

It's been mentioned several times in the club magazine. From memory, I think they are due to be available in November.

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Caprifan Rob » Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:55 pm

Andrew 2.8i wrote:I'm glad to hear that you're still working away on the project!

:agree: Keep at it, with it being a shell you have carte blanche to create whatever you want with whatever parts you can get hold of. Trouble is, It's hard enough finding the parts & when you do, prices aren't cheap. Looks like you've still got a long road ahead but stick at it & :goodluck: it'll definitely be worth it once you get to drive it.

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Not_Anumber » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:13 pm

I think you have made the right decision. The closer to original that you can keep it the more it will be worth.

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:29 am

Hot_Protein wrote:How did you find out about the injection tanks? Maybe I should start hounding CCI about it.

As you may be aware, the fuel tanks are due in the new year. Martin recently started a thread as he is also able to supply them.

How is the project coming along?

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Hot_Protein » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:07 pm

Hi,
Yes i noticed today. They look awesome. CCI want £288 for their new fuel tanks. Is Martin any cheaper? I'm aware they are £240 to members too. I was wondering if the concours guys will be buying them and have a spare tank to sell. It's not that I'm doing my build on a budget but i do have a long list of things to buy before i can turn the key. I'm going to start doing updates to my thread soon. I just dusted off the welder yesterday. Might even be brave enough to plug it in. One of the things i need is the top part of the scuttle panel and probably some A pillars.
The good news however is that i looked under the shell the other day and saw some shock absorbers. That's £200 i wont have to spend. Anyway thanks for the news. I'll get my christmas list of parts up soon.

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:39 pm

Hot_Protein wrote:Is Martin any cheaper?

Hi,
The last I heard, Martin hasn't finalised his prices yet. Best give him a call in the new year.

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Hot_Protein » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:54 pm

Not_Anumber wrote:I think you have made the right decision. The closer to original that you can keep it the more it will be worth.


Absolutely. However it is a lot more expensive. I could probably have bought a minter by the time I'm done. I don't like saving money though and i already have this one. It will be nice when it's done.

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Re: 2.8 Shell Project

Postby Hot_Protein » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:53 pm

Ok so this is my first proper update in a while. I am no longer doing RX8 independent rear suspension, nor am I doing a Jag V8 or V6, and not even a Volvo 5 pot. I’m going back to basics. I’m using excruciatingly expensive standard parts.

Why?

Well I have money for my project, but not much space or time. I can find the time, but I can’t find more space. Also, I am a little concerned about the DVLA taking away my number plate and giving me a Q plate because I have altered the chassis too much. I’m worried about the possibility that I would have to pay the new road tax based on emissions. I don’t know that for sure but it was enough of a worry for me to start thinking how easy it would be to fit the standard parts.I could buy a 2.8 for the money I will have to spend but I already have this shell and can’t sell it. So I’m pressing on with the build.

First off, welding needs to be done. My A-Pillars and Scuttle panel need sorting out as there are various rust holes. I will either patch them or get a whole panel from Expressed Panels. These are not cheap. Not even too sure of the price for the top part of the scuttle panel. The bit with all the slots for the leaves to slide into.

So the list of parts and prices I have so far;

2.8 Colonge V6 Engine £350
Type 9 5 Speed Gearbox £300
Atlas Axle £300
Prop Shaft £50
Front Struts £200
Brakes £100
Radiator £235
Injection Tank £240
Fuel Pump £90.99
Fuel Filter £14.99
Fuel Tank Sender £162
Fuel Tank Straps and Bolts £86.10
Single Leaf Springs £180
Spring Shackles £40
Poly Bushes £328.89
Front ARB £50
Rear ARB £50
Tie Rod Ends £19.20
Track Control Arms £60
Wheels and Tyres £200
Hand Brake Cable £16.09
Exhaust System £333
Starter Motor £83.95
Steering Coupler £77
PAS Seal Kit £28
Battery £65.99
PAS Pump £45
PAS Belt £16

That’s the mechanical part done. Then there’s the exterior;

Bumpers £134
Headlamps £237.60
Headlamp Brackets £40
Grill £40
Wing Rails £26.40
Windscreen Rubber £40.96
Rear Wiper Motor £30
Rear Wiper Arm £10
A Pillars £180 each
Scuttle Panel £300

And now for the interior missing parts list;

Front and Rear Seats £100
Parcel Shelf £72
Front Door Cards £50
Glove Box £30
Lower Dash Panels x2 £30
Dash Panel £20
Heater £80
Clocks 2.8 £25
Near Side Mirror £42
Window Winders £13.32

So there we have it. I have a more comprehensive detailed list that adds up to £5k. I don’t really want to spend £5k right now. I don’t have £5k right now. I do want to do the car properly, but I also want to drive the car as soon as possible so I am going to cheap out and then spend on some goodies later and get the car looking good. So if anyone knows a cheaper place to get any of these parts or a more sensible second hand price then let me know. I’m doing bodywork first then getting major mechanical parts. The plan is to do the rear end first then the front. I’ll be happy when she is rolling and has the big parts (engine, gearbox, axle, prop, struts etc) sorted.


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