Factory Original But Not Right?

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Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by pbar » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:00 am

What's the score with this, the headlight access covers are fixed the wrong way round aren't they? (Screw is usually towards the front of the car), and the expansion bottle is in the wrong position.

Yet description reads as it came off the 'production line''.

I'm discombobulated.

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by Paul G » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:29 am

No, it's not right Paul. It looks to have had repair work in that area and would probably just involve turning the covers to the correct position and drilling new holes for the screws.

To my eyes the interior looks like it's had a hard life for a 44,000 mile car what with the poor condition of the heater slider panel and the steering wheel, as well as the wear on the seats even with the crappy Laser material. All I can say is my 186,000 mile one is better than that apart from a dash crack.

The outside looks good for a car that's had a partial repaint and a pair of pattern wings.

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by pbar » Wed Oct 02, 2019 9:46 am

Thank you Paul. Yes it looks to be a good car but the description doesn't quite tally with what we can see.

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by Cosmicbike » Wed Oct 02, 2019 11:51 am

Well the expansion vessel has to be there as it won't fit in the standard position with the bike carbs (not sure which model came out of the factory with those..). Also looks like it's had some work beyond changing wings looking at the slam panel, and whoever sprayed it couldn't be arsed to mask off the bonnet stay :roll:

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by pbar » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:59 pm

Radiator cover and timing belt covers are missing also. I know all these things are only small but when a seller makes comments akin to how the car left the factory then it makes you find these things, and also makes you wonder what else you may be misled about. Honesty is best. Looks to be a nice enough car.

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by Andrew 2.8i » Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:44 pm

It seems to be bid up to quite strong money already, but not quite at the £9995 that the seller states that it's worth.

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by Peter-S » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:03 pm

Given the wear to the seats, the lack of side stripes and the apparent absence of any sort of scuff marks around the door locks and handles I would be surprised if the car hasn't had more paintwork than is mentioned. Could still be really solid of course but the outside is too clean compared to the interior.
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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by Jasonmarie » Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:39 pm

I can confirm that’s it’s a Pinto :cool:
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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by pbar » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:59 am

Peter-S wrote:
Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:03 pm
the lack of side stripes
Good point Peter, the boot and wing decals have gone also. So the lack of any decal whatsoever certainly must contradict what is said in the listing as regards to work done.

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by stevemarl » Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:10 pm

I worry when they say `no rot` yet both wings have been replaced, and there`s been a whole lot of new paint. Plus the wear around the heater control and on the steering wheel. That`s not 44k.

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by andyd » Sat Oct 05, 2019 5:55 am

stevemarl wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 8:10 pm
I worry when they say `no rot` yet both wings have been replaced, and there`s been a whole lot of new paint. Plus the wear around the heater control and on the steering wheel. That`s not 44k.
Listing ended at £6100.

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by stevemarl » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:52 pm

Just out of curiosity, I checked the MOT history, and whilst it passed in Sept with no advisories, the fail in March suggests it`s not the pristine example suggested. If I``d paid £6k, I`d be worried (esp. `Rear Vehicle structure corroded to the extent that the rigidity of the assembly is significantly reduced` both sides.


Do not drive until repaired (dangerous defects):

Rear Brakes imbalanced across an axle by more than 50% Axle 2 (1.2.1 (b) (ii))

Repair immediately (major defects):

Horn not working (7.7 (a) (ii))
Nearside Rear Stop lamp(s) adversely affected by the operation of another lamp side lamp/brake lamp interaction (4.3.3 (b))
Nearside Rear Inner Vehicle structure corroded to the extent that the rigidity of the assembly is significantly reduced spring hanger corroded (6.1.1 (c) (i))
Offside Rear Vehicle structure corroded to the extent that the rigidity of the assembly is significantly reduced spring hanger corroded (6.1.1 (c) (i))
Offside Rear Outer Vehicle structure is fractured and structural rigidity is significantly reduced sill /box section corroded (6.1.1 (a) (i))
Nearside Rear Service brake excessively binding (1.2.1 (f))
Nearside Rear Inner Service brake lagging in operation (1.2.1 (d))
Nearside Rear Inner Vehicle structure is fractured and structural rigidity is significantly reduced sill box section (6.1.1 (a) (i))

Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):

chip in screen o/s
underside has corrosion

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by Andrew 2.8i » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:30 pm

Just because somebody has bid £6K on Ebay doesn't mean that person will actually pay £6K for it. As we all know, Ebay is rife with timewasters.
My instinct says that the car will be relisted for sale before too long.

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by mgentry90 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:16 pm

Time wasters normally being the owners bidding up

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by Andrew 2.8i » Sun Oct 13, 2019 7:08 pm

There are definitely timewasting buyers on Ebay, I gave up selling stuff on there about ten years ago because of them. However, I'm currently selling something, fingers crossed everything goes without an issue...

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Re: Factory Original But Not Right?

Post by Major_Tom » Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:14 pm

No, that IS how it came off the production line...... and the 33 years after..
My car isn't stupid.... it's MENTAL.

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