Great to see

[pauld]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-1979 ... Swr7ZW3atw

I hope this goes to an enthusiast who will use the car and we can admire at various shows - looks superb

[andyd]

Hi Paul,

It was sold mid February http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-1979 ... SwCypWp4Or

[Andrew 2.8i]

Hi,
It's a fabulous car. I really like highland green, I think it suits the Capri.

Andrew.

[pauld]

Hi Paul,

It was sold mid February http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-1979 ... SwCypWp4Or

Hi Andy - I think it sold and now relisted due to a no show when it came to payment day - that's always the problem with ebay - its a shame such individuals who bid knowingly they cannot pay aren't prosecuted

[pauld]

Hi,
It's a fabulous car. I really like highland green, I think it suits the Capri.

Andrew.

Hi Andrew - I agree, the highland green really works well on the Capri IMO - Looks fabulous and great to see some of the entry level models or lower spec / engine variants available in such condition

[andyd]

Hi Paul,

It was sold mid February http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/STUNNING-1979 ... SwCypWp4Or

Hi Andy - I think it sold and now relisted due to a no show when it came to payment day - that's always the problem with ebay - its a shame such individuals who bid knowingly they cannot pay aren't prosecuted

Hi Paul,
There should be a stiff penalty enforced by Ebay for the Non Paying IMO, maybe a ban on bidding for a month or a fine (not sure how that would work though).
According to Mike Brewer on a few of the WD episodes, as long as a vehicle is correctly described you are legally bound to buy it even if you bid without viewing it So how do so many of these keep getting away with it??????

Andy

[Andrew 2.8i]

Hi,
According to Ebay "Bidding is meant to be fun, but remember that each bid you place enters you into a binding contract. All bids are active until the listing ends. If you win a listing, you’re obligated to purchase the item."
Although as has been suggested, Ebay seem powerless to enforce that rule.


Somebody who is planning to bid over £15,000 must have a valid credit card on file to ensure that they are serious about bidding. Perhaps it might be a good idea for that to be the case for all bids. In the case of a non-paying bidder, and the Ebay resolution centre finds in favour of the seller, the credit card should be charged with the bid amount anyway.

Andrew.

[andyd]

Hi,
According to Ebay "Bidding is meant to be fun, but remember that each bid you place enters you into a binding contract. All bids are active until the listing ends. If you win a listing, you’re obligated to purchase the item."
Although as has been suggested, Ebay seem powerless to enforce that rule.


Somebody who is planning to bid over £15,000 must have a valid credit card on file to ensure that they are serious about bidding. Perhaps it might be a good idea for that to be the case for all bids. In the case of a non-paying bidder, and the Ebay resolution centre finds in favour of the seller, the credit card should be charged with the bid amount anyway.

Andrew.

Yes that seems fair, you waste the sellers time then you pay

[Andyonthejob]

Hi,
According to Ebay "Bidding is meant to be fun, but remember that each bid you place enters you into a binding contract. All bids are active until the listing ends. If you win a listing, you’re obligated to purchase the item."
Although as has been suggested, Ebay seem powerless to enforce that rule.


Somebody who is planning to bid over £15,000 must have a valid credit card on file to ensure that they are serious about bidding. Perhaps it might be a good idea for that to be the case for all bids. In the case of a non-paying bidder, and the Ebay resolution centre finds in favour of the seller, the credit card should be charged with the bid amount anyway.

Andrew.

Or you find out immediately after that it's been a reshell but can't prove it on paper. Billing someone anyway is too extreme but a flat rate payment to the seller for backing out and as suggested maybe a timed ban on bidding for a while.

[andy a]

Tin hat time

Ebay auctions for cars are pointless, the get out being "as described", take any car that's not new in the showroom (and a few that are) and you can always pick a fault that enables you to walk away if you're that way inclined, quite why someone would choose to sell by auction is beyond me, a classified advert is about 15 quid, no final value fees, they turn up, look, and hopefully buy and take away.

Before we get into all the "testing the market" and "I dunno what it's worth" argument, you usually do, but people like to get a bit more, simple, chuck it on a listing with a reserve that won't get met, and let them fire away at it, if it makes a price you like, contact the highest bidder, let them come down with the money, and buy it, if not, list it at the winning bid or just over on a classified.

I've sold over a dozen cars on Ebay over the years, never a problem, I've had sellers pull out when the car they had listed with no reserve never made enough money for them, it's amazing how many cam belts snap within an hour of auction end

The other annoyance of Ebay is shill bidding, and bidders identities being private on some auctions, it isn't hard to recognise patterns, and check peoples bid histories, you'll often see a high priced auction finish then the car relisted within a day or 2, with that catch all line "winning bidder never made contact", which means their second account/mate won the bidding when they should've left the last bid alone, but they won't exactly admit that will they.

As for people bidding who may not pay, you can set bidder preferences on the site so only people with a card on file can bid, people who have retracted bids, or not paid within a certain time period, and a whole host of other criteria can't bid on your listings.

[pauld]

Tin hat time

Ebay auctions for cars are pointless, the get out being "as described", take any car that's not new in the showroom (and a few that are) and you can always pick a fault that enables you to walk away if you're that way inclined, quite why someone would choose to sell by auction is beyond me, a classified advert is about 15 quid, no final value fees, they turn up, look, and hopefully buy and take away.

Before we get into all the "testing the market" and "I dunno what it's worth" argument, you usually do, but people like to get a bit more, simple, chuck it on a listing with a reserve that won't get met, and let them fire away at it, if it makes a price you like, contact the highest bidder, let them come down with the money, and buy it, if not, list it at the winning bid or just over on a classified.

I've sold over a dozen cars on Ebay over the years, never a problem, I've had sellers pull out when the car they had listed with no reserve never made enough money for them, it's amazing how many cam belts snap within an hour of auction end

The other annoyance of Ebay is shill bidding, and bidders identities being private on some auctions, it isn't hard to recognise patterns, and check peoples bid histories, you'll often see a high priced auction finish then the car relisted within a day or 2, with that catch all line "winning bidder never made contact", which means their second account/mate won the bidding when they should've left the last bid alone, but they won't exactly admit that will they.

As for people bidding who may not pay, you can set bidder preferences on the site so only people with a card on file can bid, people who have retracted bids, or not paid within a certain time period, and a whole host of other criteria can't bid on your listings.

Bump - now where's that tin hat gone agree with your point though I have never sold on ebay and never will when it comes to cars - also would never buy a car off ebay unless I'd seen it and the vendor was taking an offer - rather than seeing it and then being told by the vendor to go and make an offer on ebay! old school yes, but I'm the one with the queens heads so have that luxury

[andy a]

Tin hat time

Ebay auctions for cars are pointless, the get out being "as described", take any car that's not new in the showroom (and a few that are) and you can always pick a fault that enables you to walk away if you're that way inclined, quite why someone would choose to sell by auction is beyond me, a classified advert is about 15 quid, no final value fees, they turn up, look, and hopefully buy and take away.

Before we get into all the "testing the market" and "I dunno what it's worth" argument, you usually do, but people like to get a bit more, simple, chuck it on a listing with a reserve that won't get met, and let them fire away at it, if it makes a price you like, contact the highest bidder, let them come down with the money, and buy it, if not, list it at the winning bid or just over on a classified.

I've sold over a dozen cars on Ebay over the years, never a problem, I've had sellers pull out when the car they had listed with no reserve never made enough money for them, it's amazing how many cam belts snap within an hour of auction end

The other annoyance of Ebay is shill bidding, and bidders identities being private on some auctions, it isn't hard to recognise patterns, and check peoples bid histories, you'll often see a high priced auction finish then the car relisted within a day or 2, with that catch all line "winning bidder never made contact", which means their second account/mate won the bidding when they should've left the last bid alone, but they won't exactly admit that will they.

As for people bidding who may not pay, you can set bidder preferences on the site so only people with a card on file can bid, people who have retracted bids, or not paid within a certain time period, and a whole host of other criteria can't bid on your listings.

Bump - now where's that tin hat gone agree with your point though I have never sold on ebay and never will when it comes to cars - also would never buy a car off ebay unless I'd seen it and the vendor was taking an offer - rather than seeing it and then being told by the vendor to go and make an offer on ebay! old school yes, but I'm the one with the queens heads so have that luxury

It never ceases to amaze me what some people will pay on there, and the lack of thought processes involved in their purchases, early last year I sold a car as a restoration project, 45 years old, hadn't been on the road for a couple of years, I listed it as an auction and put what I could see walking around the car in the description, also stating that I fully expected it to need work underneath, but hadn't looked (I originally purchased the car with 12 months ticket on it as I wanted the spares stash that came with it, not the car, but the seller wouldn't split), and told people to come and look.

It was listed for 10 days, one local came and looked, he offered me less than the bid was at that stage, with 8 days to go, so went home empty handed, it ended at £3250, nobody else looked at it in that time, or even called about it, but they buyer arranged a time to come and collect, which they did, but not in person, a transport bloke turned up with cash in an envelope, handed it over, loaded it, and didn't even know the owners name so I could fill the log book in, I literally had to stand in the way of him loading so I could count the money, as he was in a hurry to get off

I've purchased cars blind on a lot of occasions, but never for more money than the sum of the parts I can see on them, it's probably not the way to do it, but I've never been caught out yet, as anything that turned up and was rubbish either went back out and wiped it's arse, or was broken for the spares pile, the trouble is that the way prices are even spares cars have to be viewed, as people want so much for them now.

[ESSEXV6ESSEX]

Ebay is a very strange place to do business where an amount of cash like that is involved. My own experience is generally quite good but there is no way I'd bid 8K on a car without seeing it. I've been to look at some right heaps that are described by the owner as the best thing since slices bread (incidentally what was the best thing before sliced bread?) anyway like any market place there are good people naive people and damn right liars, it really is a mine field and for me it's not a place for buyer beware, it's wholly right that people should be able to walk away from 12 pics and a very subjective description.

[andyd]

Winning bid on the Highland Green Capri was £7360 with reserve not met!
Sold mid February for £8189 reserve met!

Easy to work out the reserve is probably £8000, so why not list it for that and have done with it
P***ing about to try and get a few extra £'s The car will end up not selling at all as buyers will assume there is something wrong with it.

I have bought from dealers pictures and descriptions more than once, and I can say most have been as expected but you always find something that wasn't mentioned. But I cant really complain as that's my fault for not making the 500 + mile round trips to view them

I like ebay for Buy It Now items, but you can keep the rest it's too much hassle.

Andy

P.S. Hope I don't I need my Tin Hat

[Andrew 2.8i]

Hi,
I think that's the right attitude.
Personally, I believe that the onus is on potential bidders to thoroughly inspect a car before bidding on, or buying from, Ebay listings. The same goes for any other internet site, for that matter. By all means, bid unseen, but be aware that the seller's description may not be entirely accurate.
I suppose the same goes for anything on Ebay, not just cars. Obviously, it's not practical to drive 100 miles to inspect a CD, for example, but if I'm not sure about anything, I always ask the seller a question beforehand.
That's my view, anyway.

Andrew.

[andy a]

The only one I walked away from was a VW LT50 I bid on in Bristol (a longish trek from here) several years ago, I had some barns to clear, and needed a truck fast, I didn't expect much to be honest, I spoke to the seller on the phone, he said it had a years tcket on it, drove okay, and the engine and box were fine, job done, he also assured me he'd had Caterhams on it without them scraping as they went up the back, so the loading angle was okay, chucked a bid on, won, went to collect in a Transit Connect SWB (which was empty), the seller was itchy to get the cash, and the truck was parked a couple of streets away from his house (he was in the pub when we turned up to collect, his father told us where to go to get him, I told him to go get him instead, seeing as he should know what he looked like), so off he went.

When he got back with his son he wanted the cash, then we could go and get the truck, not a chance of that, so I went down with him to have a look, he said he'd previously sold it to someone and they couldn't get their car on the back, and went into a rant about time wasters, and how he was going to punch the next time waster in the face, so to cheer him up I insisted on driving the Connect up the back of it, now Connects aren't low, but it got it's front wheels just off the ramps onto the bad, and grounded out, things got a bit tense, but he wasn't getting his money, or rid of the truck, I told him to punch himself in the face for wasting my time, and off he toddled, back to the pub, and I set off for a 3 1/2 hour drive home, lesson learn't, never trust anyone's description, especially when they have a vested interest, ie, they own the vehicle that's for sale

[andyd]

Says it all http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Capri-/2 ... SwvgdW6buy
No description and at £10,000 starting bid... £1000 might be a better start

[Bertie]

Says it all http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Capri-/2 ... SwvgdW6buy
No description and at £10,000 starting bid... £1000 might be a better start

I think it was advertised elsewhere for around 15k....

[andyd]

Says it all http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Capri-/2 ... SwvgdW6buy
No description and at £10,000 starting bid... £1000 might be a better start

I think it was advertised elsewhere for around 15k....

Really.... With the state of the interior be lucky to get anywhere near £10k IMO (unless its only done 2000 miles from new)

[andy a]

Says it all http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Capri-/2 ... SwvgdW6buy
No description and at £10,000 starting bid... £1000 might be a better start

I think he's bob on with his pricing there, it doesn't hurt to test the market a little, see if you can squeeze that extra few quid out, it's going to be warm this weekend, ideal time to chuck a bit of sunshine tax on top as well, I like the way it hasn't been messed about with, original "patina" under the bonnet etc etc, although I do feel he's let himself down a little by washing it, it can't be a barn find now, can it?