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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby andyd » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:49 pm

Andrew 2.8i wrote:
Fordoholic Nick wrote:. I had my standard for about 7yrs before deciding to change to a CCI Club ( Sportex ). Looks very tidy, fits well and with the s/s 2" tailpipe it does give a nice tone both idling and on the road.

I agree, and the Sportex fulfills the criteria laid out in the original post. Not too loud but a little louder than original.

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2" System https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sportex-Ford ... rk:20:pf:0 IMPORTANT fits to SPORTEX manifold only??
Inc. manifold https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sportex-Ford ... :rk:9:pf:0
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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby Fordoholic Nick » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:51 pm

andyd wrote:
Andrew 2.8i wrote:
Fordoholic Nick wrote:. I had my standard for about 7yrs before deciding to change to a CCI Club ( Sportex ). Looks very tidy, fits well and with the s/s 2" tailpipe it does give a nice tone both idling and on the road.

I agree, and the Sportex fulfills the criteria laid out in the original post. Not too loud but a little louder than original.

Andrew.

2" System https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sportex-Ford ... rk:20:pf:0
Inc manifold https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sportex-Ford ... :rk:9:pf:0


Yep at £250 I still think this offers great value. Great links there Andy.
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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby andyd » Wed Oct 31, 2018 5:55 pm

Fordoholic Nick wrote:
andyd wrote:
Andrew 2.8i wrote:I agree, and the Sportex fulfills the criteria laid out in the original post. Not too loud but a little louder than original.

Andrew.

2" System https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sportex-Ford ... rk:20:pf:0
Inc manifold https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sportex-Ford ... :rk:9:pf:0


Yep at £250 I still think this offers great value. Great links there Andy.

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:00 pm

andyd wrote:2" System https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sportex-Ford ... rk:20:pf:0 IMPORTANT fits to SPORTEX manifold only??

That's interesting as CCI state their exhaust (the same system as Sportex) can be fitted to the original downpipes.
http://capriclub.co.uk/Exhausts-Manifol ... -inch-exit

It's a bit more expensive, but they also do a twin exit exhaust system for the pinto.
http://capriclub.co.uk/Exhausts-Manifolds/twin-system

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby andyd » Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:11 pm

Andrew 2.8i wrote:
andyd wrote:2" System https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sportex-Ford ... rk:20:pf:0 IMPORTANT fits to SPORTEX manifold only??

That's interesting as CCI state their exhaust (the same system as Sportex) can be fitted to the priginal downpipes.
http://capriclub.co.uk/Exhausts-Manifol ... -inch-exit



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I imagine they do fit o/e, and the CCI include the clamps too whereas the others don't...

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Thu Nov 01, 2018 5:57 am

andyd wrote:I imagine they do fit o/e, and the CCI include the clamps too whereas the others don't...

CCI often get criticised for their prices, but actually, the club system looks like good value for money. Especially with the discount for being a club member.

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby D366Y » Thu Nov 01, 2018 1:08 pm

Andrew 2.8i wrote:
andyd wrote:I imagine they do fit o/e, and the CCI include the clamps too whereas the others don't...

CCI often get criticised for their prices, but actually, the club system looks like good value for money. Especially with the discount for being a club member.

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I'm inclined to agree, I think I ended up buying off ebay though as the only qualm I have with CCI is their postage is a little pricey

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby Daz-RSK » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:10 pm

Yes, they can all be made to fit and you don't even need a welder. Just a reducer / expander does the trick. Normally slotted and they tell you what the inner / outer diameters for reference.

The only reason the Sportex might insist on having the downpipes - and therefore, you should heed their advice for no other reason - it could be the way the system mates to the downpipes is slightly different where it is positioned, across the width of the car. Pipework is easy to work to lengths - but not quite so easy if the Sportex downpipes are closer or further from the sill than the standard. The rest of the system won't then sit right, even fit at all.

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby Not_Anumber » Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:31 pm

From experience its always worth allowing plenty of time to fit any exhaust and get the car as far off the ground as you can safely and comfortably get it on axle stands to give yourself the best access. Only gently tighten the clamps at first until you are sure that each box and piece of pipe is in the optimum position, then tighten the clamps fully just as you finish.
Also if the exhaust is an after market one, especially if it is a slightly larger bore aftermarket one, then be prepared to test drive and adjust it a couple of times.
Investment in a little bit of time and effort will reward you with an exhaust that wont clang against the bodywork or rear spring.

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby Daz-RSK » Fri Nov 02, 2018 5:33 pm

Yes, that is some good guidance there.

I remember in my "youf", fitting a loud, wider bore to a Cortina and the pipe must have been made by the Chinese. The sections didn't fit (as in the female section was far too wide for the male) and coupled with my "Let's get on with this as quick as I can", after I had fitted the pipe, the damn thing slid round where there was no peg to prevent the rotation - or maybe there was no peg on the Chinese exhaust where there should have been.

The upshot was that I was driving down the road and there was all this scraping sound. I got out and to my horror, part of the exhaust had swiveled on the clamp and was near the ground. I learnt a lot from that day that there is only one way to fit an exhaust - that is the right way.

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby pbar » Fri Nov 02, 2018 7:50 pm

The trial fit/drive and test as decribed above is also the reason for not using exhaust paste, and fit it dry instead. I've found that the Mikalor clamps are so good (far better than the standard U ones), that paste is not needed anyway.

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:43 pm

pbar wrote:I've found that the Mikalor clamps are so good (far better than the standard U ones)

That's interesting. Which ones do you use, the T-bolt clamps like these?
https://www.viperperformance.co.uk/hose ... ually.html

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby andyd » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:50 pm

Andrew 2.8i wrote:
pbar wrote:I've found that the Mikalor clamps are so good (far better than the standard U ones)

That's interesting. Which ones do you use, the T-bolt clamps like these?
https://www.viperperformance.co.uk/hose ... ually.html

Andrew.

I've seen those but didn't know what they were called.
Maybe an alternative to Jubilee Clamps too ?

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby pbar » Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:16 pm

These are the ones I chose guys, and from this company too -

https://www.clampcouk.co.uk/exhaust-rep ... lamps.html

They are incredibly strong (much stronger than jubilee), clamp evenly all round and can be fitted without taking the exhaust apart, i.e. they can be opened up fully rather than having to be slid on.

I fitted my exhaust with the usual U clamps but got frustrated at the lack of complete seal and didn't wish to use paste. So I got these which made it far better and as said, didn't have to take the exhaust apart to fit them so was very easy.

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby andyd » Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:02 am

pbar wrote:These are the ones I chose guys, and from this company too -

https://www.clampcouk.co.uk/exhaust-rep ... lamps.html

They are incredibly strong (much stronger than jubilee), clamp evenly all round and can be fitted without taking the exhaust apart, i.e. they can be opened up fully rather than having to be slid on.

I fitted my exhaust with the usual U clamps but got frustrated at the lack of complete seal and didn't wish to use paste. So I got these which made it far better and as said, didn't have to take the exhaust apart to fit them so was very easy.

Thanks Paul, will keep this in mind for my exhaust, and as the old bottom rad hose clip is on it's last legs might be a good option too....Just need to work out what sizes I need :)

I have copied the link to Capri Parts Sources thread :cheers:

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Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:40 am

andyd wrote:
pbar wrote:These are the ones I chose guys, and from this company too -

https://www.clampcouk.co.uk/exhaust-rep ... lamps.html

They are incredibly strong (much stronger than jubilee), clamp evenly all round and can be fitted without taking the exhaust apart, i.e. they can be opened up fully rather than having to be slid on.

I fitted my exhaust with the usual U clamps but got frustrated at the lack of complete seal and didn't wish to use paste. So I got these which made it far better and as said, didn't have to take the exhaust apart to fit them so was very easy.

Thanks Paul, will keep this in mind for my exhaust, and as the old bottom rad hose clip is on it's last legs might be a good option too....Just need to work out what sizes I need :)

Hi Andy,
you've got the original Ford jubilee clips on yours, haven't you?

On the subject of these t-bolt clamps, which look like a great idea by the way, they also make them in black. In my opinion, that would look better than the stainless ones for anybody that has a black Sportex exhaust. At the moment I've gone for the cheaper option of simply painting regular exhaust clamps black to match the exhaust. I am tempted upgrade to these clamps, but Paul's flow-chart expressly forbids it...... :D

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby andyd » Sat Nov 03, 2018 9:01 am

Andrew 2.8i wrote:
andyd wrote:
pbar wrote:These are the ones I chose guys, and from this company too -

https://www.clampcouk.co.uk/exhaust-rep ... lamps.html

They are incredibly strong (much stronger than jubilee), clamp evenly all round and can be fitted without taking the exhaust apart, i.e. they can be opened up fully rather than having to be slid on.

I fitted my exhaust with the usual U clamps but got frustrated at the lack of complete seal and didn't wish to use paste. So I got these which made it far better and as said, didn't have to take the exhaust apart to fit them so was very easy.

Thanks Paul, will keep this in mind for my exhaust, and as the old bottom rad hose clip is on it's last legs might be a good option too....Just need to work out what sizes I need :)

Hi Andy,
you've got the original Ford jubilee clips on yours, haven't you?

On the subject of these t-bolt clamps, which look like a great idea by the way, they also make them in black. In my opinion, that would look better than the stainless ones for anybody that has a black Sportex exhaust. At the moment I've gone for the cheaper option of simply painting regular exhaust clamps black to match the exhaust. I am tempted upgrade to these clamps, but Paul's flow-chart expressly forbids it...... :D

Andrew.

Hi Andrew,
The rad clip is like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-Genuine-R ... :rk:5:pf:0 Srewdriver has mashed it a little over the years, so will change it next time I do coolant.
Exhaust has usual clamps so may upgrade these in the Spring if required.

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:43 am

andyd wrote: Srewdriver has mashed it a little over the years, so will change it next time I do coolant.

Screwdrivers seem to have that effect on those little bolts in the clamps. I find it easier to use a socket instead and doing it that way doesn't wreck the fastener. :)

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby tejb1 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:33 pm

I have a 2" Sportex, fitted by a previous owner, and agree the good balance of sound without being ridiculous.

Only issue I had was the rear rubber mount perishing and rubbing against the NSR tyre. Took a little jiggling into position, will be keeping an eye on. Not sure if that is a fitting issue tho.

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Re: Best exhaust system

Postby andyd » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:18 pm

Andrew 2.8i wrote:
andyd wrote: Srewdriver has mashed it a little over the years, so will change it next time I do coolant.

Screwdrivers seem to have that effect on those little bolts in the clamps. I find it easier to use a socket instead and doing it that way doesn't wreck the fastener. :)

Andrew.

I will be using a socket in future :cheers: