Mk3 GL Radio Query

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Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby D366Y » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:43 am

Might sound like a slightly odd query but did GL models have speakers wired to the radio??

I was tinkering with mine at the weekend in the boot and noticed that there were no rear parcel shelf speakers as there are in my laser, and there were no spare wires there either, I checked the front of the car and there is no fader switch either so fair enough I guessed there must be no rear speakers, but there are no speakers in my front door cars either like in other models... are they hidden behind the door card? Are there any speakers anywhere anyways?? :lol:

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby Paul G » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:36 pm

The GL's of your one's age just had the standard Ford P21 M/L wave radio with one speaker in the centre of the dashboard.

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby Andrew 2.8i » Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:30 pm

One speaker. Brilliant! :D

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby Lord Flasheart » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:56 pm

Paul G wrote:The GL's of your one's age just had the standard Ford P21 M/L wave radio with one speaker in the centre of the dashboard.


IIRC that was the deal in my 79 GL back in the day as paul says, later upgraded with graphic equaliser (who remembers them :D ) & kick ass Pioneer 150W monsters cut into the parcel shelf :mrgreen: ......... it was 1985 8-)

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby Taff50ish » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:54 pm

I remember these. My 1.6L (Not 1.6 Litre, Model 'L'...) I cut a big hole in the Dash to fit the then compulsory 'Sashio' Radio Cassette player, then screwed a Big Kick Ass Graphic under the Ash Tray, 7 Band of course!!! Ah memories!!! I eventually Up-graded to an Audioline Head, which came with a Built IN Graphic Equaliser..... How Cool was that!!! :cool: :cool: :cool: :doh:

Luckily I had NO parcel shelf to Butcher so had big Shelf Speakers bolted down!!!

But yes, it was as said, a P21 with a single speaker!!! Cheers,

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby Fordoholic Nick » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:39 pm

Danny leave your car with John for a week and you wont be short of speakers mate !!!! Might have to sacrifice your back seats and boot space though fella but fuck me it will sound great !!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby D366Y » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:57 am

Thanks for the reply guys, never knew that some models had speakers in the dash! I'll have a poke around at the weekend when I'm free, put the GL flew through the MOT without any advisories so I can start fiddling with silly things like this now!

And I'm not sure I want to sacrifice all my boot space or my tatty parcel shelf yet but I'll definitely bear John in mind when I want to open a nightclub and run it from the boot of the car! :lol:

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby Jasonmarie » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:33 am

Had that in my Escort and it sounded ok but I also went for the audioline with the graphic equaliser I thought it was the bees knees then .
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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby timfromull » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:57 am

The mint, uncracked dash I've recently bought came complete with the dash speaker......
I also am guilty of hacking my new laser dash back in the 80's to fit my Audioline head unit with graphic equaliser...
Complete with big pod speakers that made the parcel shelf sag :doh:

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby D366Y » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:09 am

Jasonmarie wrote:Had that in my Escort and it sounded ok but I also went for the audioline with the graphic equaliser I thought it was the bees knees then .
Glad to here you’re. Cappa passed its mot .


Thanks! was a pleasant surprise to be honest haha

timfromull wrote:The mint, uncracked dash I've recently bought came complete with the dash speaker......
I also am guilty of hacking my new laser dash back in the 80's to fit my Audioline head unit with graphic equaliser...
Complete with big pod speakers that made the parcel shelf sag :doh:


I would be tempted to put bigger/better speakers in but the dash in that is uncracked at the moment and I might as well try and keep that one as original as possible so for now I think I'll just leave it as is... my parcel shelf isn't in the best condition either so don't want to rip it in half! :lol:

Side question, green car, brown interior, what colour would the parcel shelf have been and what colour would the carpet on said parcel shelf be....?

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby Nigel 1953 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:01 pm

I had a 1980 Capri in the early 80s with brown seats & carpet. The parcel was brown and I'm pretty sure the carpet inserts were brown also.

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby D366Y » Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:09 pm

Nigel 1953 wrote:I had a 1980 Capri in the early 80s with brown seats & carpet. The parcel was brown and I'm pretty sure the carpet inserts were brown also.


Thanks Nigel, I'll start looking for some parts then :)

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby Taff50ish » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:59 pm

Hi Danny,

Sorry fella, I was wrong!!! The 1982 / 1983 GL came with a P32 Radio, MW/LW/VHF!!!! So this might have had front door speakers??? It is very hard to tell from the Magazine, but with VHF, whats the point if you only have the 1 Speaker???

Anyhow, for your enjoyment and to help you get this car period correct, please see below from one of my many saved Ford Magazines!!!
August 1982.... What a Year!!!
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Back Ground info, as the info states 'As L model'....
ImageCapri L & LS Info by John Taylor, on Flickr

ImageCapri L & LS Pics by John Taylor, on Flickr

And now the GL info....
ImageCapri GL Info by John Taylor, on Flickr

And the GL Pics...
ImageCapri GL Pics by John Taylor, on Flickr

I hope this helps you with the project Danny. If these Pics are not clear enough, I do have some High Quality PDF's of these Pages, drop me a PM with your E'mail address and I can forward them onto you if they can help??? All the very best fella, cheers for now,

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby D366Y » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:09 pm

That brochure is the absolute nuts!! Love that you still have that, that's proper history haha.

I'll drop you a PM with my email and would be great if I can get the HD pictures to have a look over, thanks for posting John :)

I'll have to have a look behind the dash when I get some time and see if I can find the speaker, there's definitely not any in the door unless they're behind the carpet which seems slightly unlikely...

Thanks
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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby pbar » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:03 am

How great is that brochure, that's brilliant, thanks for posting it up.

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby Bod9084 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:03 am

I have a radio that will fir it’s a ford

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby D366Y » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:15 am

Bod9084 wrote:I have a radio that will fir it’s a ford


Thanks but I already have the original fitted, was just a query on the speakers

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby Peter-S » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:54 am

Jasonmarie wrote: I also went for the audioline with the graphic equaliser I thought it was the bees knees then .


I have an Audioline with equalizer in my 2.0 for that 'period' sound :D

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby D366Y » Mon May 07, 2018 8:58 am

Peter-S wrote:
Jasonmarie wrote: I also went for the audioline with the graphic equaliser I thought it was the bees knees then .


I have an Audioline with equalizer in my 2.0 for that 'period' sound :D

Imageradio by Peter Smith, on Flickr


Haha love that Peter, looks seriously old school :)

I managed to get around to taking the dash and the radio out yesterday to see if I could figure the thing out but annoyingly I couldn't get it to come on or make any noise... Could be the speaker so will source a new re-placement (any advice on the size so it fits behind the dash would be great!) but also I noticed that there was only an earth attachment, the signal for the ariel, the speaker wire and then the only live was off the ignition with an inline fuse, and there was no permanent live feed... I thought that it was a bit odd and I got a new stereo I had lying around to test it, wouldn't come on until I put a line straight to the battery to test it and then it came on, tried it with the original radio and nothing happened still...

Any ideas on how to get the original radio to work and if I need a permanent live feed...?

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Re: Mk3 GL Radio Query

Postby Paul G » Mon May 07, 2018 9:15 am

That's how they were wired Danny, no need for permanent live as no tuning memory except for the preset buttons.

Could be an internal fuse, dry wiring joints or anything really that would stop it working. Probably best get someone in the know to look at it.

I would think the centre speaker would be a 6X4.

Back in the dark ages when I had my nearly new MK2 2.0S I replaced the standard unit with a sharp anss stereo/cassette and surface mounted speakers on the rear shelf side supports although the car wasn't even fitted with a shelf back then.