Pinto engine change recomdations?

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Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby Martincapri » Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:54 am

Hi everyone.
I currently have a 1.6 pinto in my laser. I want to replace it with a 2.0. I have several engines to choose from. One 2.0 block originally from a capri that had apparently been reconditioned but doesn't turn over freely. Another 205 block from a transit with apparently really low mileage. The transit lump looks the cleanest but I haven't taken the sump off yet. Just wondering what you guys think I should go for. Would the transit lump have an unsuitable cam shafts for a capri.
Thanks Martin.

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby Paul G » Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:58 am

The Transit engine is a low compression engine and wouldn't have much more go than a good 1.6. It will be torqey though. The cam in them is basically a 1.6 cam.

Transit 2 litre blocks can be rebored and fitted with normal 2.0 pistons and fitted with a 2.0 head, cam, manifolds and 32/36 carb to make them the same as a standard Capri engine.

To keep costs down I'd strip the other engine first to see why it is stiff - it might just need a thorough clean out and bore hone to get it working again.

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby Martincapri » Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:26 am

So the transit lump is completely different. I was thinking it might just have a different cam. Thanks for the information much appreciated. I'll get the capri lump on a stand and check it out. If it was rebuilt before I got it that might explain the tightness.

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby fordperv » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:37 am

Why don't you get the transit 205 block rip it to bits and have it rebored to take 93mm pistons, have the head skimmed 40thou and a high lift cam you will have a peppy little engine then

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby Paul G » Sun Apr 08, 2018 9:55 am

Thinking more carefully about it, Transit blocks were usually stamped "202". It could be a case that someone had stuck a Sierra engine in the Transit. If you whip the head off you will see if it's got flat top pistons and measure the valve head diameters to see if they match Sierra dimentions.

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby fordperv » Sun Apr 08, 2018 1:09 pm

I've had low comp 205 blocks in the past

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby Martincapri » Sun Apr 08, 2018 4:47 pm

The transit engine would be a good Base for lary rebuild but I would just like a good reliable pinto. I'm on a bit of a budget with the engine so the 2.0 will be the best I think. Is it right that the 2.0 on a standard cam the valves won't hit the pistons if the cam belt snaps?

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby 340truck » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:17 pm

Martincapri wrote:The transit engine would be a good Base for lary rebuild but I would just like a good reliable pinto. I'm on a bit of a budget with the engine so the 2.0 will be the best I think. Is it right that the 2.0 on a standard cam the valves won't hit the pistons if the cam belt snaps?

Should be ok but no guarantees lol
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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby pbar » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:14 am

Martincapri wrote:Is it right that the 2.0 on a standard cam the valves won't hit the pistons if the cam belt snaps?


Should be the case yes, as it is non interference, so the car would simply just stop. Why don't they make all cars like that :)

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby Martincapri » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:43 am

If only they were all as simple as a pinto. Thanks for the information guys much appreciated.

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby 79Caprigl » Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:54 am

I know it's not on your list and ruins originality but the st170 is a good option in terms of cost to power ratio!

However, I've got a 1.6 pinto in mine and intend to convert to a 2.0 pinto to at least retain the originality a bit. I'm going for the transit 202 block with low compression pistons as I've read they are good for potential turbo conversions. Read David Vizards book on SOHC Ford engines too, very informative :cheers:

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby Martincapri » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:51 am

I did look into putting a black top zetec in it as I have one in the shed but was put off by what I would have to buy to convert it. If I was restoring a capri and didn't have an engine I would probably go down the zetec route.
Pinto for now I think lol. Thanks for the information.

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby Mc Tool » Wed May 02, 2018 9:00 am

If the "reconditioned" one is for true , and hasn't been run it will be stiff to turn. Take the plugs out and have a butchers thru the plug hole while Robin turns the engine over . If the cylinder walls look freshly honed you may be on a winner. Id take the time to prime the oil system really well ( dizzy out and spin the oil pump up with a battery drill ) before starting...............................should you wind up buying it :)
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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby Martincapri » Wed May 02, 2018 9:42 pm

Mc Tool wrote:If the "reconditioned" one is for true , and hasn't been run it will be stiff to turn. Take the plugs out and have a butchers thru the plug hole while Robin turns the engine over . If the cylinder walls look freshly honed you may be on a winner. Id take the time to prime the oil system really well ( dizzy out and spin the oil pump up with a battery drill ) before starting...............................should you wind up buying it :)


Great thanks for the reply. I have it on the engine stand and will be pulling it to bits soon. Thanks for the tip on spinning the oil pump good idea. I'm sure I'll be on here for some more advice once it's in bits.

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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby Mc Tool » Thu May 03, 2018 1:35 am

Have a look at the gaskets and if they look new or have been painted over with the rest of the engine you might be better leaving the block/head/sump assy in one bit . maybe take the cam cover off to view the condition / age of the cam and followers ( and to verify oil supply at the spray bar when you pre oil the engine ).
Hoping that the engine is new , as long as you have oil pressure and coolant ( water is ok for a quick test ) and correct valve clearance ............cant hurt to kick her in the guts and see how it goes leak and horrible noise-wise :)
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Re: Pinto engine change recomdations?

Postby Martincapri » Wed May 09, 2018 9:52 pm

Mc Tool wrote:Have a look at the gaskets and if they look new or have been painted over with the rest of the engine you might be better leaving the block/head/sump assy in one bit . maybe take the cam cover off to view the condition / age of the cam and followers ( and to verify oil supply at the spray bar when you pre oil the engine ).
Hoping that the engine is new , as long as you have oil pressure and coolant ( water is ok for a quick test ) and correct valve clearance ............cant hurt to kick her in the guts and see how it goes leak and horrible noise-wise :)


I probably would have done just that but for some reason the engine won't turn orer so definitely got to have it to bits. Might get the head done for unleaded while I'm at it. Been quoted about £20 per exhaust value.