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Postby caprikid61 » Sat May 13, 2017 5:39 pm

Hi folks , managed to fit my rear seatbelts in my 2 litre laser , I have added photos of whats all involved to help anyone who is going to be fitting the same ones .

I tried to find photos online off the anchor points at the back of the boot panel but no luck ! So I hope that anyone else looking for them will see them on my photos .

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Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sat May 13, 2017 5:50 pm

caprikid61 wrote:Hi folks , I have spent most of the day trying to fit rear seatbelts to my mk 3 laser but cant seem to figure out what way the reel sits ? Does anyone have any photos of there rear seatbelts so I can see how they fit . Cheers Alex

Hi Alex,
With original belts, there is a locating peg on the reel housing that locates into a hole in the body. This ensures that they are fitted at the correct angle, as the mechanism won't function properly if that's not the case.

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Postby caprikid61 » Sat May 13, 2017 6:07 pm

Cheers Andrew but there dosnt seem to be no locating peg , there is just a few holes in the plate at the back of the reel. I am guessing that the reel sits long ways with to one bolt that fits into the tread that already there? .

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Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sat May 13, 2017 6:15 pm

Hi,
The only info I can find is on the Securon website, but I guess you've already read the fitting instructions?

http://www.securon.co.uk/fitting/extras/254fitting.htm

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Postby caprikid61 » Sat May 13, 2017 6:29 pm

Yep I have the instuctions here so gonna have another look to see if I can wirk it all out . Cheers for the info though , will let you know how I get on . I would post some photos for you to see but have never managed to figure out how to post them on here :banghead: .

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Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sat May 13, 2017 8:04 pm

Hi,
You need an account with a photo hosting website, such as Photobucket, to post photos on this forum.
This tutorial explains everything you need to know:
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Postby caprikid61 » Sat May 13, 2017 8:08 pm

Andrew 2.8i wrote:Hi,
You need an account with a photo hosting website, such as Photobucket, to post photos on this forum.
This tutorial explains everything you need to know:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=33174

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Thanks Andrew I will have a try again I sent a link to a photo a few mins ago but I am guessing it never worked? Cheers

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Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sat May 13, 2017 8:19 pm

caprikid61 wrote:Thanks Andrew I will have a try again I sent a link to a photo a few mins ago but I am guessing it never worked? Cheers

Hi,
Yes, the link to the photo works now.

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Postby D366Y » Sun May 14, 2017 9:19 am

Andrew 2.8i wrote:
caprikid61 wrote:Hi folks , I have spent most of the day trying to fit rear seatbelts to my mk 3 laser but cant seem to figure out what way the reel sits ? Does anyone have any photos of there rear seatbelts so I can see how they fit . Cheers Alex

Hi Alex,
With original belts, there is a locating peg on the reel housing that locates into a hole in the body. This ensures that they are fitted at the correct angle, as the mechanism won't function properly if that's not the case.

Andrew.


I've been meaning to ask about this for ages; I fitted aftermarket belts many moons ago that didn't have a locating peg, that has now broken so purchased another one from Martin (CapriGear) that does have a locating peg, but I don't seem to have a hole for said peg without drilling into the plastic which I don' really want to do....

Any ideas??

But yes your description here is right, as these sound like what I fitted
caprikid61 wrote:Cheers Andrew but there dosnt seem to be no locating peg , there is just a few holes in the plate at the back of the reel. I am guessing that the reel sits long ways with to one bolt that fits into the tread that already there? .

Alex


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Postby caprikid61 » Sun May 14, 2017 12:57 pm

Hi Danny , Im with you on this on I cant find this hole or spike anywhere !! So as the reel is ajustable I am just going to adust it until it workes and take it from there.

I managed to get a link to my photo of the reel in place a few posts back on this topic but cant seem to send the photo ! Can you or anybody that knows how to do it open the photo for me and put it on here ? I am away to start working on it again so will take more photos as I go along so in the future it might help others trying to fit these rear belts.

Cheers Alex

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Re: Securon pn 254 rear seatbelts (please help)

Postby Arya2.0S » Sun May 14, 2017 2:30 pm

IIRC, the locating peg and spike are on the seatbelt housing themselves. They fit into some holes drilled into the back of the c-pillar (thats what that bit is called isnt it?), at least thats how mine were.
I had to line them up perfectly, then it was just a case of doing the bolt up. The spike on the seatbelt thingy slots into one of them and stops the whole thing twisting when you torque up the bolt.
Is it possible yours did not come with these, as they do tend to fall off, again at least mine did. Despite having mounted them perfectly one of mine refuses to unlock so its completely unusable despite being in the right position and everything so it must be broken, but the other side works fine.
They are finicky things, they only have to be a tiny bit out of position and they wont work at all.

Also, heres your photo:
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Postby D366Y » Sun May 14, 2017 2:36 pm

As requested

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Arya2.0S wrote:
IIRC, the locating peg and spike are on the seatbelt housing themselves. They fit into some holes drilled into the back of the c-pillar (thats what that bit is called isnt it?), at least thats how mine were.

Despite having mounted them perfectly one of mine refuses to unlock so its completely unusable despite being in the right position and everything so it must be broken, but the other side works fine.
They are finicky things, they only have to be a tiny bit out of position and they wont work at all.


Looking at it, these seatbelts don't actually have the locating hook as they are after-market. I had the same issues you mentioned about the thing refusing to unlock which is why I sought to get another and the one I got from martin was obviously an original as it does have the locating peg.7

Back to the problem at hand though, it looks like you need to rotate it slightly, it doesn't sit exactly flat/level, it tilts slightly, almost in line with the boot shut line. At least mine is like that.

Try that?

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Postby D366Y » Sun May 14, 2017 2:37 pm

Arya2.0S wrote:
IIRC, the locating peg and spike are on the seatbelt housing themselves. They fit into some holes drilled into the back of the c-pillar (thats what that bit is called isnt it?), at least thats how mine were.

Despite having mounted them perfectly one of mine refuses to unlock so its completely unusable despite being in the right position and everything so it must be broken, but the other side works fine.
They are finicky things, they only have to be a tiny bit out of position and they wont work at all.


Looking at it, these seatbelts don't actually have the locating hook as they are after-market. I had the same issues you mentioned about the thing refusing to unlock which is why I sought to get another and the one I got from Martin was obviously an original as it does have the locating peg.

Back to the problem at hand though, it looks like you need to rotate it slightly, it doesn't sit exactly flat/level, it tilts slightly, almost in line with the boot shut line. At least mine is like that.

Try that?

Danny
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Postby Arya2.0S » Sun May 14, 2017 2:38 pm

lol, seems we were both typing a response with the picture attached at the same time. Beat ya to it though :P

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Postby D366Y » Sun May 14, 2017 2:41 pm

Arya2.0S wrote:lol, seems we were both typing a response with the picture attached at the same time. Beat ya to it though :P


I noticed, and in my stupidity trying to avoid duplicating it, I pressed all the wrong buttons and quoted my own ruddy comment so haven't helped at all :lol:

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Postby Arya2.0S » Sun May 14, 2017 2:47 pm

D366Y wrote:
Arya2.0S wrote:lol, seems we were both typing a response with the picture attached at the same time. Beat ya to it though :P


I noticed, and in my stupidity trying to avoid duplicating it, I pressed all the wrong buttons and quoted my own ruddy comment so haven't helped at all :lol:


Heehee, sounds like something i would do. :lol:

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Postby Andrew 2.8i » Sun May 14, 2017 3:27 pm

Arya2.0S wrote:They are finicky things, they only have to be a tiny bit out of position and they wont work at all

That might be true of the original belts, however, according to the Securon website theirs can be mounted at any angle, but they must be adjusted to operate correctly.

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Postby caprikid61 » Sun May 14, 2017 9:59 pm

Been trying for hours now to post the photos I got today while fitting the rear seatbelts :oops: but no luck I only have a mobile so photobucket dosnt seem to work. Does anyone have an email address that I can send the photos to so they can post them on here for me ?? Cheers Alex

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