Incurable wheel wobble (CURED!!)

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble

Post by Caprigear » Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:25 am

Your front bar should be a 22mm later style bar, possible it may have been changed to a 24 mm at some time. I have all of the bushes in stock.
The earlier style of bar was only used up to the very early MK3 but with the correct mounting brackets the bigger, later bars can be fitted to any Capri.
Surely if the calipers were sticking you would notice brake dust on the wheels?
Have you tried changing the inner bushes in the track control arms? if they're worn then that would give the symptoms you have.
Another thing, it's possible that the ARB and or the lower steering arm might have been damaged in the accident but the alignment being checked should have highlighted this.
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Re: Incurable wheel wobble

Post by Arya2.0S » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:11 pm

Caprigear wrote:Your front bar should be a 22mm later style bar, possible it may have been changed to a 24 mm at some time. I have all of the bushes in stock.
The earlier style of bar was only used up to the very early MK3 but with the correct mounting brackets the bigger, later bars can be fitted to any Capri.
Surely if the calipers were sticking you would notice brake dust on the wheels?
Have you tried changing the inner bushes in the track control arms? if they're worn then that would give the symptoms you have.
Another thing, it's possible that the ARB and or the lower steering arm might have been damaged in the accident but the alignment being checked should have highlighted this.
Thanks. No i have not changed the bushes in the TCA's yet, would have been the first thing i did if it wasnt for the fact they were only replaced with brand new units no more than a couple of years ago so they should still be good but i guess if nothing else has helped thus far i might as well try them next as im running out of things to replace.
Regarding brake dust the front wheels do get dirty faster than the rears but i thought that was normal just due to the fact they are discs and not drums like the rear.
The steering rack has been replaced with a newly refurbished one so the arms should be in perfect working order now, i haven't touched the ARB however but someone would have noticed if it was damaged by now what with how many times everything under there has been looked at, and like you say the alignment would have shown it too. The alignment was out slightly but the adjustment hasnt fully cured the problem so theres still something sinister going on.
As it stands its the best its been since noticing the problem but it still isnt 100% so the mystery continues.
Are the bushes you supply polyurethane ones and branded?

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble

Post by Caprigear » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:27 pm

The bushes I supply are Superflex, I've been an approved stockist for years now. I won't fit anything else. If the inner bushes are standard rubber then there's every chance that they are worn.
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Re: Incurable wheel wobble

Post by Arya2.0S » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:39 pm

Caprigear wrote:The bushes I supply are Superflex, I've been an approved stockist for years now. I won't fit anything else. If the inner bushes are standard rubber then there's every chance that they are worn.
How much do you charge for the inner track control arm bushes? Tempted to do this next.

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble

Post by Caprigear » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:05 pm

I'll get you a delivered price on Monday, my lists are at work.
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Re: Incurable wheel wobble

Post by Arya2.0S » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:40 pm

Caprigear wrote:I'll get you a delivered price on Monday, my lists are at work.
Ok cheers. It'll probably be a couple of weeks until I can afford them anyway so no rush.

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble (CURED!!)

Post by Arya2.0S » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:28 pm

I have finally cured this problem! Turns out is was an alignment issue all along.

How did i do this? Well i bought 4 new tyres from a place called "F1 Autocentres" online, they have a large garage near me where they fit them and in with the price of fitting and balancing they threw in a free alignment check as well (along with something called "precision balancing"), even though ive already had the alignment checked i figured why not since its free.

Anyway, after fitting the tyres and balancing the wheels and refitting them they put the car up on a ramp and used a computer and some other nifty looking gizmos to check it. Anyway i was called over to have a look at a graph on this screen and it showed all the different things such as camber caster and toe etc.
Under each one there was a bar with three smaller bars, green in the middle and two red ones on each end, and mine fell into the far end of the red on the toe for each front wheel! (rears were checked even though theres no adjustment for them, and they were fine)
So it seems my mate's mechanical alignment tool must be miscalibrated, because they adjusted the toe and got the bar into the green for me (at a slight extra cost).
I then took the car for a high speed blast down the A13 to test to see if the wobble was sitll there and make sure the tyres were balanced properly and OMG it was like driving a totally different car! No wobble at any speed through the steering, and zero vibrations through the car!
:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :guitar: :woot: :woot: :applaud: :woot: :cool:
So the saga has finally come to end, and i can stop haemorrhaging money and worrying about this stupid thing and go back to enjoying my Capri!
:burnout: :burnout: :burnout: :burnout:

So in case anyone in the future has this same problem and you have tried seemingly everything, just get your alignment checked straight away! Save yourself an ocean of trouble and get this checked first, preferably by someone with a ramp and a high tech machine!

Oh such a relief....i can now sleep at night, at least until the next problem occurs lol.

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble (CURED!!)

Post by andyd » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:34 pm

:applaud:
Sound like the same piece of kit Ed China used on Wheeler Dealers...... Clever stuff.

You have the 4 spokes back on now?

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble (CURED!!)

Post by Arya2.0S » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:44 pm

andyd wrote::applaud:
Sound like the same piece of kit Ed China used on Wheeler Dealers...... Clever stuff.

You have the 4 spokes back on now?
Yep and im gonna keep them, i think. I'll probably sell the Minilights and eventually upgrade to some 15 inch wheels and tyres in the distant future. Now that i have all 4 of the refurbished 4 spokes on the car they dont look half bad though:
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Re: Incurable wheel wobble (CURED!!)

Post by andyd » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:05 pm

Looking nice...... Great colour :D

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble (CURED!!)

Post by Arya2.0S » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:17 pm

andyd wrote:Looking nice...... Great colour :D
Thanks. Yeah the colour really shines in this sort of weather, and i haven't even cleaned the car for a week or two. :oops:

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble (CURED!!)

Post by pbar » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:15 am

Do you wear a baseball cap backwards?

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble (CURED!!)

Post by Arya2.0S » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:12 pm

pbar wrote:Do you wear a baseball cap backwards?
Yep. The 90's is strong in this one. lol.

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble (CURED!!)

Post by Not_Anumber » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:58 pm

Well done for sticking with it. Did you see how they adjusted the toe in. Did it need much more on one side that the other or was it fairly equal ?

Remembering back did the problem get worse after having your tracking adjusted ?

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble (CURED!!)

Post by Arya2.0S » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:09 pm

Not_Anumber wrote:Well done for sticking with it. Did you see how they adjusted the toe in. Did it need much more on one side that the other or was it fairly equal ?

Remembering back did the problem get worse after having your tracking adjusted ?
I didn't see how they did it but the graph did show before they adjusted it that both sides were out by a massive amount. I think the whole car was basically pigeon toed.
Last time the alignment was adjusted it made zero difference, but I think my mate's alignment tool wasn't set up properly. He used this old fashioned looking thing with mirrors and such whereas the garage used something a bit more advanced with a computer connected to it and obviously it proved a lot more effective lol.
They even said to bring it back in a week or two to recheck it and make more adjustments if needed.

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Re: Incurable wheel wobble (CURED!!)

Post by sarkie83 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:00 am

Fair play with your persistence! Last time I got the alignment checked, there was basically no more adjustment left on the end of the track rod (because of how far it's lowered at the front)
Mk3 Capri 1.6L retrorides thread

If it doesn't rattle ore shake; it's fallen off.

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