Are 2.8i specials tail happy..
Are 2.8i specials tail happy..
Compared to the normal 2.8i's? Or does the LSD sort it out abit?
Sorry if it's an obvious answer
Sorry if it's an obvious answer
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An LSD will make it more manageable in a drift once you lose it, depending on your skill level.
Some people say they prefer an open diff when the rear end slides out, others prefer and LSD.
Ultimately its still a Capri and an LSD isnt going to drastically change the characteristics of the rear suspension or how it deals with weight transfer, or the amount of weight pushing down on the rear wheels giving it grip all that much.
That will still be down to the suspension and tyres at the end of the day, and last i checked a 2.8I, even the brooklands is still using leaf springs with a live rear axle sooo.....yeah, wont make that much of a difference, unless it has a x-frame axle location kit installed and even then its not going to be a transcendent difference with the LSD.
If anything due to the increase in HP and torque they'll be even more tail happy, depending on how you drive of course.
If your sensible the car will act sensible just like anything else.
At the end of the day its gonna be down to how much talent is behind the wheel that will be the most defining factor.
Some people say they prefer an open diff when the rear end slides out, others prefer and LSD.
Ultimately its still a Capri and an LSD isnt going to drastically change the characteristics of the rear suspension or how it deals with weight transfer, or the amount of weight pushing down on the rear wheels giving it grip all that much.
That will still be down to the suspension and tyres at the end of the day, and last i checked a 2.8I, even the brooklands is still using leaf springs with a live rear axle sooo.....yeah, wont make that much of a difference, unless it has a x-frame axle location kit installed and even then its not going to be a transcendent difference with the LSD.
If anything due to the increase in HP and torque they'll be even more tail happy, depending on how you drive of course.
If your sensible the car will act sensible just like anything else.
At the end of the day its gonna be down to how much talent is behind the wheel that will be the most defining factor.
Re: Are 2.8i specials tail happy..
Some paving slabs and builders sand and a bag of cement always worked wonders in the boot of my Dad's 3.0 injection.
I'm the one who leaves all those shoes in the carriageway.
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Heard this a lot myself, I call BS though as it'll only make the pendulum effect even worse (big, heavy unstable load flying around in the back), not to mention ruin your MPG.Major_Tom wrote:Some paving slabs and builders sand and a bag of cement always worked wonders in the boot of my Dad's 3.0 injection.
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There`s a clue there.....Major_Tom wrote:in the boot of my Dad's 3.0 injection.
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Re: Are 2.8i specials tail happy..
Did you know that back in the day, Ford dealers could actually supply a lump of concrete that was shaped to fit in the spare wheel well..Major_Tom wrote:Some paving slabs and builders sand and a bag of cement always worked wonders in the boot of my Dad's 3.0 injection.
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I would need factual evidence, even photographic proof before i believe this.Andrew 2.8i wrote:Did you know that back in the day, Ford dealers could actually supply a lump of concrete that was shaped to fit in the spare wheel well..Major_Tom wrote:Some paving slabs and builders sand and a bag of cement always worked wonders in the boot of my Dad's 3.0 injection.
You're telling me Ford dealerships, or even Ford factories went into the investment of buying heavy concrete slabs and paid qualified people to cut said slabs in the exact specific shape of the spare wheel well and fit them into the back of the car as an "optional extra"?!
How did the spare wheel fit in there with the slab as well then, since theres not a massive amount of room left with just the wheel and tyre in there, and i'd imagine to make it have any effect this special slab would have to be pretty thick?!
Also how was this regulated and approved by the government to meet safety standards at the time, and how the hell did they deal with the bad press it would have given the car, not to mention get around the way it would have severely affected the performance and MPG figures by adding extra dead weight?
Image the tsunami of bad press and reviews that would have come out in major publications, news papers, magazines, car shows etc after Ford promised everyone "the car you always promised yourself" or in the 2.8I's case "goes like lightning", yeah lightning with half of B&Q's masonry dept stuck in the back.
Imagine the headline: "Ford's Capri handles so badly they offer paving slabs as optional extras to help improve rear end stability".
Please.
Not calling you a liar or having a go or anything dude, but i think you've fallen for an old myth as "truth", like some people believe in the Loch Ness monster, or the Moon landing was faked etc.
I just cant see this being true...I mean....come on! I can buy the putting a bag of sand in the boot thing at your own discretion but to have an actual dealer ask a customer "Oi, you want the paving slab performance handling package? We're doing a special offer this week!" is just taking it a bit too far for me lol.
But then again....Donald Trump is currently sitting in the White House so stranger things have happened...
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I wasn't being serious.Arya2.0S wrote:I would need factual evidence, even photographic proof before i believe this.Andrew 2.8i wrote:Did you know that back in the day, Ford dealers could actually supply a lump of concrete that was shaped to fit in the spare wheel well..Major_Tom wrote:Some paving slabs and builders sand and a bag of cement always worked wonders in the boot of my Dad's 3.0 injection.
You're telling me Ford dealerships, or even Ford factories went into the investment of buying heavy concrete slabs and paid qualified people to cut said slabs in the exact specific shape of the spare wheel well and fit them into the back of the car as an "optional extra"?!
How did the spare wheel fit in there with the slab as well then, since theres not a massive amount of room left with just the wheel and tyre in there, and i'd imagine to make it have any effect this special slab would have to be pretty thick?!
Also how was this regulated and approved by the government to meet safety standards at the time, and how the hell did they deal with the bad press it would have given the car, not to mention get around the way it would have severely affected the performance and MPG figures by adding extra dead weight?
Image the tsunami of bad press and reviews that would have come out in major publications, news papers, magazines, car shows etc after Ford promised everyone "the car you always promised yourself" or in the 2.8I's case "goes like lightning", yeah lightning with half of B&Q's masonry dept stuck in the back.
Imagine the headline: "Ford's Capri handles so badly they offer paving slabs as optional extras to help improve rear end stability".
Please.
Not calling you a liar or having a go or anything dude, but i think you've fallen for an old myth as "truth", like some people believe in the Loch Ness monster, or the Moon landing was faked etc.
I just cant see this being true...I mean....come on! I can buy the putting a bag of sand in the boot thing at your own discretion but to have an actual dealer ask a customer "Oi, you want the paving slab performance handling package? We're doing a special offer this week!" is just taking it a bit too far for me lol.
But then again....Donald Trump is currently sitting in the White House so stranger things have happened...
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Re: Are 2.8i specials tail happy..
I preferred the Brocklane Ghia myself...Major_Tom wrote:Some paving slabs and builders sand and a bag of cement always worked wonders in the boot of my Dad's 3.0 injection.
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If they had it may have helped prevent rustAndrew 2.8i wrote:Did you know that back in the day, Ford dealers could actually supply a lump of concrete that was shaped to fit in the spare wheel well..Major_Tom wrote:Some paving slabs and builders sand and a bag of cement always worked wonders in the boot of my Dad's 3.0 injection.
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So mine's not original thenAndrew 2.8i wrote: I wasn't being serious.
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Lol, that's what I thought, but this is the internet so you can never be TOO sure.Andrew 2.8i wrote:I wasn't being serious.Arya2.0S wrote:
I would need factual evidence, even photographic proof before i believe this.
You're telling me Ford dealerships, or even Ford factories went into the investment of buying heavy concrete slabs and paid qualified people to cut said slabs in the exact specific shape of the spare wheel well and fit them into the back of the car as an "optional extra"?!
How did the spare wheel fit in there with the slab as well then, since theres not a massive amount of room left with just the wheel and tyre in there, and i'd imagine to make it have any effect this special slab would have to be pretty thick?!
Also how was this regulated and approved by the government to meet safety standards at the time, and how the hell did they deal with the bad press it would have given the car, not to mention get around the way it would have severely affected the performance and MPG figures by adding extra dead weight?
Image the tsunami of bad press and reviews that would have come out in major publications, news papers, magazines, car shows etc after Ford promised everyone "the car you always promised yourself" or in the 2.8I's case "goes like lightning", yeah lightning with half of B&Q's masonry dept stuck in the back.
Imagine the headline: "Ford's Capri handles so badly they offer paving slabs as optional extras to help improve rear end stability".
Please.
Not calling you a liar or having a go or anything dude, but i think you've fallen for an old myth as "truth", like some people believe in the Loch Ness monster, or the Moon landing was faked etc.
I just cant see this being true...I mean....come on! I can buy the putting a bag of sand in the boot thing at your own discretion but to have an actual dealer ask a customer "Oi, you want the paving slab performance handling package? We're doing a special offer this week!" is just taking it a bit too far for me lol.
But then again....Donald Trump is currently sitting in the White House so stranger things have happened...
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Look for the "Marshalls" brand name stamped on it, worth more that way especially if you added the Flintstones brakes upgrade .Peter-S wrote:So mine's not original thenAndrew 2.8i wrote: I wasn't being serious.
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Hi Peter,Peter-S wrote:So mine's not original thenAndrew 2.8i wrote: I wasn't being serious.
I know how you feel. I was going to buy a NOS one off Ebay for £200, but I have my doubts that it is a genuine Ford item....
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Blue Oval CementAndrew 2.8i wrote:Hi Peter,Peter-S wrote:So mine's not original thenAndrew 2.8i wrote: I wasn't being serious.
I know how you feel. I was going to buy a NOS one off Ebay for £200, but I have my doubts that it is a genuine Ford item....
Andrew.
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Isn't that called "body filler"?Andrew 2.8i wrote:Class!andyd wrote:Blue Oval Cement
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This thread is a cracker
I'm the one who leaves all those shoes in the carriageway.
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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SNzhdnhlyc4/hqdefault.jpgMajor_Tom wrote:This thread is a cracker