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Hey guys. Wonder if you can help. Don't know if any of you have come across this before but my car has developed 'paint bleach spots' on the bonnet and tops of wings.
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Now. I keep my car outside as my garage is full of stuff and during the winter I keep a cover over it. I took the cover off at the beginning of March and unfortunately we had National Grid working down our road and the covered it in crap. They agreed to have it cleaned so I took it to a local valet/detailer who I know to get it done. When finished it did look the nuts. As there are pictures to prove.
But, since then after a couple of cleans, these spots have appeared . I haven't a clue how to get rid of them.
The cleaner reckons it's caused by condensation where I had a cover on it. Not put a cover on it since it's been cleaned.
To say I'm disappointed is an understatement. Any ideas?
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Hi,
This risk of this sort of water damage can be eliminated by removing the cover periodically to air the paint, and always allow the car to dry properly before fitting the cover.
However, there is a procedure that may eradicate these stains (scroll down near the end of the thread).
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=44152&p=284028&hil ... er#p284025

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Thanks Andrew. Read through the whole post and it seems I have a similar thing. I'll try what he done and let you know.
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Hi,
It's worth a try as you haven't got anything to lose, really.
Go steady and do a tiny bit at a time, and it should work out OK.

Please let us know how you get on.

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Hi,
Reading my first post again, it comes across as a little abrupt. It wasn't meant to be, so I must apologise for that. I know I would have been devastated if the same had happened to me.
Anyway, I hope you get the problem sorted using the advice on the other thread. I haven't tried it myself, but I'm sure you'll be successful.

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Don't worry. Trying to put across certain things in text always comes out differently if we was chatting face to face. I just appreciate your help!
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Hi. Definitely looks like water spots, and there are type 1, 2 and 3 of these. Type 3 are the ones I had which is the link which Andrew pointed you to. And type 3 are the worse ones to have. However, there are a couple of things which you can do. Firstly, have you waxed your car recently by any chance?
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Hi. Yep. It was cleaned, detailed and waxed. Canuba wax or something?
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Wax is one of the ingredients which causes these spots. Wax can be an absolute menace in some instances, believe me, which is why I asked. I assume that your car has no clear coat that you are aware of either. There's nothing unusual in that with a Capri of course, just wondering?
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If you are sure that you cannot remove/wipe these away using any normal method of cleaning, then these may indeed also by type 3 spots. And if that's the case, as said, wax plays a big part in this, if you leave the wax on then it may happen repeatedly, especially when the car gets wet, beads, and dries quickly such as in direct sunlight.

Before the boiling water trick, you could try using a degreaser to take the wax off. You may find the spots come off at the same time. After degreasing, you may need to use something like G3 paint renovator. After that you might find that they have all gone. I know someone else who has also suffered with these and they used T-cut instead of G3, but I find that to be quite harsh. Their spots were also removed using the degreaser method. Again, this happened just after they had waxed the car, no problem up until then.

Please let me know how you get on.
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Will do thanks.
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Good luck! The boiling water method and the degreasing one are the only two which I have found to make an impact. If you find another please do share it. And keep wax away from your car or you will never stop it.
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Do you mean gunk as a degreaser? Excuse my ignorance.
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I've not used that brand specifically, but yes, that kind of thing. I just had a cheap spray bottle of it from a local pound shop, but it is Engine Degreaser, just the same I expect. Take care though.
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It may not be an option in your circumstances, but I have found something else that works for me. I stick it in the garage. A while in the dark and they fade away again. I was out the other week on a nice sunny day and got some free washer fluid on the bonnet from the car in front. Couldn't stop to wipe it off as was on a ring road in traffic so was left with white marks. After a few days in darkness, they were gone.
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Ok thanks for that but unfortunately I can't get it in my garage. Too much stuff! I'm looking for a garage to rent but I'm a bit dubious about it.
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Well. I had a go at the degreaser and G3 method and it has removed the majority of the spots. I also tried the boiling kettle approach in a small area and I think that may have helped. I'll have another go tomorrow as I ran out of time today but it does seem promising! Only thing I forgot to get was some polish! Might get some auto glym super resin to put on it.
Thanks again for all your help and advice.
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MS Injection wrote:I stick it in the garage. A while in the dark and they fade away again.
Alright Mike. They won't be type 3 water spots, or at least I very much doubt it. In your case, isn't it simply evaporation with the car sitting in the garage in this warm weather? If only all problems could be fixed by just putting the car away and leaving it, wouldn't that be brilliant!
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Stish704 wrote:Well. I had a go at the degreaser and G3 method and it has removed the majority of the spots. I also tried the boiling kettle approach in a small area and I think that may have helped. I'll have another go tomorrow as I ran out of time today but it does seem promising! Only thing I forgot to get was some polish! Might get some auto glym super resin to put on it.
Thanks again for all your help and advice.
Brilliant, I'm pleased that you have made some progress. I would advise against using the Autoglym (that's the one I used by the way) though. You will suffer from this again, over and over. Now that you know that your car/paintwork suffers from these, you need to keep wax away from it.

Please do continue to keep this updated.
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Stish704 wrote: it does seem promising!
Excellent news. I hope you are able to remove all of the remaining marks.

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