Heater unit question

[Hollyoak]

But is it any better? Or just a straight replacement? Mine is a bit wheezy, but I always assumed that's how they came!

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Considering if its original its around 30 years old, if you’ve got the need to take it out I personally would not take the time changing brushes / oiling bearings, and after all that work take the risk it failing again, better to put a new one in and have some piece of mind IMO, my new one is perfect, if you’ve never done one before, when you do it you’ll see why, I did one years ago that’s why I bought a motor first off id no intention of looking at the old one, I’ve even changed all the inaccessible bulbs even the ones that were working, that just how I am,
I believe the motors at CCI are Inc VAT but they are definitely excluding delivery, TBH I think they all work out at about the same price, eBay could be cheaper I don’t know, worth a look,

Dave

[-JC-]

Hmm, fair point. Will probably get one then next time I need to take the damn thing out! (Not from CCI though!)

[Andrew 2.8i]

Those on screen prices include vat as well don't they? But not delivery.

Hi,
Yes, that's correct. Remember to shop around for all-inclusive totals to compare like-for-like. As I recall, sometimes CCI can be expensive for postage for single items, and you're never sure of what it will cost until you get to the checkout stage.
Andrew.

[Andrew 2.8i]

Those on screen prices include vat as well don't they? But not delivery.

Hi,
On another note, all of CCI's Ebay listings include the member's discount anyway, even for non-members. This makes the total cost of a replacement £64.50 including postage.
This pricing strategy seems a bit awry to me, as it must cost less to process sales through their own website than through Ebay. If they are able to sell items on Ebay and maintain their required profit margin, why not slightly reduce the website prices to account for the absence of these fees?
I would be surprised if anyone owns a Capri and is not aware of the existence of the club, so it can't be for marketing and advertising reasons.
Andrew.

[-JC-]

Maybe he doesn't care too much about that side of things cos he's busy doing this:



[/tongue in cheek]

[Andrew 2.8i]

Maybe he doesn't care too much about that side of things cos he's busy doing this:

JC,
It's barely detectable from your posts, but I'm sensing that you're not the biggest fan of JH!
Perhaps I'm being naïve, but from how I interpret the articles in the club magazines, he's more dedicated to the survival of the cars than making a stack of cash. Bear in mind that JH already had a successful business even before starting the club.
Rant over!

Can anyone who has replaced the heater motor tell me if a new Capri heater motor can compare favourable with heaters in modern cars, or is it never going to happen?
Mine current one seems to be fine at the moment, but maybe I could replace the motor if there's a big improvement with a new one fitted.
Andrew.

[pbar]

Perhaps I'm being naïve, but from how I interpret the articles in the club magazines, he's more dedicated to the survival of the cars than making a stack of cash.

Very true. He's done more for Capri's than any of us could dream of. New parcel shelf anyone?

[Hollyoak]

Can anyone who has replaced the heater motor tell me if a new Capri heater motor can compare favourable with heaters in modern cars, or is it never going to happen?
Mine current one seems to be fine at the moment, but maybe I could replace the motor if there's a big improvement with a new one fitted.
Andrew.[/quote]

It's early days for me yet it's not been back out of the garage yet, but I'm not expecting any great change in performance,

Dave.

[stevemarl]

The new motors are the same model as the original Bosch unit, so they will make it `like new`. As far as `how does it compare to a modern car`... it depends. The airflow I think is pretty good, the heat output will depend on how sludged up the matrix is, how well regulated the engine temp is etc etc. When working properly, it`s hot enough that it can be uncomfortable on your leg. Which, to me, is good enough.

[A17 LTF]

Maybe he doesn't care too much about that side of things cos he's busy doing this:

JC,
It's barely detectable from your posts, but I'm sensing that you're not the biggest fan of JH!
Perhaps I'm being naïve, but from how I interpret the articles in the club magazines, he's more dedicated to the survival of the cars than making a stack of cash. Bear in mind that JH already had a successful business even before starting the club.
Rant over!

Can anyone who has replaced the heater motor tell me if a new Capri heater motor can compare favourable with heaters in modern cars, or is it never going to happen?
Mine current one seems to be fine at the moment, but maybe I could replace the motor if there's a big improvement with a new one fitted.
Andrew.

Thanks for that Andrew. It does get rather annoying when people at best just slate businesses when they hear half a story of someone and take that as gospel. He has done a bucket loads for Capris and so have the likes of Caprigear but in the end they just get sidetracked because some owners think they know best.

[Andrew 2.8i]

When working properly, it`s hot enough that it can be uncomfortable on your leg. Which, to me, is good enough.

As I thought. Sounds as though mine is doing it's job as well as it should be. It's not worth my while replacing the motor for the sake of it, just because the dash is apart. Thanks for your replies, Dave and Steve.

[Mc Tool]

My heater is shite . I have cleaned the whole thing out , fixed the seals and with the temp gauge at normal ( 1/2 way up the gauge ) the air is luke warm at best and not hot enough to work on a cold day ..... but when the gauge is at the bottom of the red ( a good five minutes towing a heavy trailer up a mountain pass , 2nd gear 2500 - 3000 rpm ) the heater worked bloody fine , as mentioned " uncomfortable on the leg " , considering it was already 25 deg c outside. Does anybody know the difference in coolant temp between 1/2 gauge and just nudging the red . Maybe my Crapi is running to cool ( I did put in a new stat ) and I did fit a new(ish ) dash board regulator ,( fuel gauge still only hits 3/4 when chock full ). I think my viscous fan coupling is rooted , I heated the shitters out of it with a blow torch and it still freewheeled..................but I stuck it back on any way

[Hollyoak]

Just fitted new decal, looks great and the light shines through, happy,
( stripped thread heli coiled no problem )

Dave.

[-JC-]

JC,
It's barely detectable from your posts,

Lol!

To be fair, I've not had any dealings with him, but I just get that impression from what I've heard. It does seem like he runs it more of a business than a club at times though.

[pbar]

One thing that no one seems to mention with the Capri heater, is just how good it is with the blower turned off. Just the car moving gives easily enough 'draught' to clear a winter steamed up windsreen. It's far, far better than a modern car for that!

[Caprigear]

JC,
It's barely detectable from your posts,

Lol!

To be fair, I've not had any dealings with him, but I just get that impression from what I've heard. It does seem like he runs it more of a business than a club at times though.

That's because it is a business! it has been for years. I don't see the problem, most other cars with a decent following have a spares operation that is a business. Parts do not simply get produced by magic - it has to be funded.
You don't seriously think that all the parts etc that the club produces sells is paid for by the subsciptions of the members do you?
It never ceases to amaze me how folk can't seem to get over the fact that he's a businessman, you'd think that he was in league with the devil the way some people go on about it.

[Andrew 2.8i]

Just fitted new decal, looks great and the light shines through, happy,

Hi,
If anyone out there in Capriland (if only there was such a place!) would like an improvement in the amount of light shining through the decals, I've just replaced the bulb with one of these LEDs and am happy to report that it works a treat.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251457130070? ... EBIDX%3AIT
Andrew.

[spireman]

I sell the heater decals on e bay for £4.50 with free p&p, they are printed on top quality vinyl and laminated, I also do them for mk1 pre facelift Capri, mk2 Escort, Cortina mk3 and 5.

[pbar]

I sell the heater decals on e bay for £4.50 with free p&p, they are printed on top quality vinyl and laminated...

Please can you clarify if the standard illumination still shines through those?

[spireman]

The illumination does still shine through but not as bright as before, I have sold over 100 of these and up to now everybody has been happy.