Webber 32/36 problem ?

[Martinlazer1.6]

Hi , I have just fitted a 32/36 dgav . The only way you can start it is pouring a bit of fuel down the carb and then it won't tick over , it just dies when you release the throttle And you its difficult reving it .I have fitted a carb gasket kit , removed the jets and blew it out and cleaned it with carb cleaner .the jets are bigger than they should be I noticed though. The mixture screw I set to 2 turns out but don't seem to make any difference if I adjust it ? Any ideals , I don't know what to do , carbs are not my thing . Thanks for any help . Martin

[Peter-S]

If you take the top off the carb is there any fuel in the bowl? Sounds like the float needle might be stuck and/or the float level set incorrectly.
Also worth checking the filter under the brass inlet nut isn't blocked.
Presumably this is a second hand carb. Do you know if it was running OK prior to you getting it?

[Martinlazer1.6]

Well , I was told it came off a 2l 86 car , don't know when it was last used but the inside was a right state when I got it .jets blocked up . Cleaned it out whith carb cleaner , maybe still blocked somewhere ? Blew it out too . Cleaned filter before fitting it .fitted a new float needle too, will check the fuel level too .

[Terra-Kotta]

Have you pulled all the jets and through them ??

[Martinlazer1.6]

Yes , all jets was removed and cleared , think I will do it again to make sure .dont know what else to try , maybe I should have payed out for a new carb ?

[Terra-Kotta]

Yep!

[Peter-S]

which jets have you cleaned - the main jets that unscew from the fuel bowl or have you done the idle jets at the side as well?

Whereabouts are you?

[Martinlazer1.6]

As far as I know I took all out , I'll clean it again today + jets . Maybe I missed an idle jet cos there's 2 isn't there ? I'm in Chatham , Kent

[Peter-S]

As far as I know I took all out , I'll clean it again today + jets . Maybe I missed an idle jet cos there's 2 isn't there ? I'm in Chatham , Kent

Hmm, about 40 minutes from me. I haven't any time until next weekend but if you are still sruggling come then and want some help I could probaly come over.

[Terra-Kotta]

Go and help him Peter. Should have bought a bloody new carb anyway.

[Martinlazer1.6]

Ok thanks , I'll see how I get on this weekend sorting it out , stripped it down again today , checked jets , blew it out , checked float height , seems fine , put it on , wont start now , didnt even try , will investigate tomorrow again , I'm steering closer to getting a new carb now , it's winding me up .

[Peter-S]

Ok thanks , I'll see how I get on this weekend sorting it out , stripped it down again today , checked jets , blew it out , checked float height , seems fine , put it on , wont start now , didnt even try , will investigate tomorrow again , I'm steering closer to getting a new carb now , it's winding me up .

Just a thought - are the choke flaps opening when you press the throttle. The operating lever is held on with an 'e' clip, may have come adrift?

[ThatGuy]

Timing maybe? Do you know if your timing is set correct, as if it's not it won't fire? Had the same sort of problem with mine when I first got her running

[340truck]

!.6 pintos have been known to jump a tooth on the timing belt. They will run this way but very rough and won't idle. This could be your problem, and the remedy is to go back to basics which is not a bad plan for any non starter:

Check engine timing is correct, ie No.1 at TDC, cam at moon over mountains, rotor arm in vicinity of No.1 plug lead?

Points correctly gapped and opening and closing?

Use a bolt in the end of the plug lead, hold close to metal item on body (earth), crank engine on starter, check for spark?

Check fuel is flowing through carb in some way ie a fuel/air mix is getting to cylinders?

If you have all these things working then the engine will start and run. A non starter problem will always be one or more of these things not happening. It really is that simple.

[Martinlazer1.6]

Ok . Thanks for your replies . I have removed it again , cleaned it , removed the jets and checked them , put it back on , it will run for about a minuite then dies , there always fuel in the filter so getting it to the carb . If I try to restart it strait away it just turns over , if I leave it 10 mins it will start again as before . I have set the mixture to 1 1/2 turns out . I know the timing is out cos of the work i have done to it ,but I can't set this until I can get it running , I have got it as close as I can . It would run on the vv carb I had before . I have new plugs , points, destributor cap , rotor arm , leads . Maybe it's getting too much fuel somehow and that's why it won't start strait away ( flooded ) ?? The choke e clip is on also and I checked the float level and think its fine ?

[stevemarl]

If, as you say, it was running OK on the VV it makes sense to focus on a problem with the new carb. Many people find they need the mixture screw out more than the couple of turns it `should` be; maybe try it unscrewed a bit more to see if it helps?

[Martinlazer1.6]

Tried more turns out on the mixture , up to 5 , still the same , beginning to think the carb is still blocked internally , b buying a new one soon I think .

[stevemarl]

I guess sometimes you`ve just got to admit defeat? Can you shove the VV back briefly - just to make ABSOLUTELY certain that`s where the problem is, before paying for a new one. Just to rule out engine problems?

[Martinlazer1.6]

When I bought the dgav I got given a dgv with it , I was thinking about swapping all jets and cleaning that out to try that ??

[stevemarl]

Definitely worth a try - although if the actual passages in the carb body itself are gunged up it will make no difference. Ah, you mean use the DGV? Good idea!