how easy is it to change rear type 9 oil seal

[dan the capri fan]

the rear oil seal on my type 9 has started leaking a bit i want to sort this before it gets worse. how easy is it to change the seal i know ill need to take the prop shaft out but will i need to take the gearbox out a car mate says i wont need to take the gearbox out as well as where can you buy the seals from thanks

[gilley576]

I feel as if you are asking for a step by step resto........

Get yourself a haynes and plod on with that.

You shouldn't need to get the box out, and you'll get a seal from EBay.

[stevemarl]

[Caprigear]

I have the seals but obviously you wouldn't have thought to ask me - why would you, I have only been dealing in the cars and parts for over 20 years!
Best stick to E Bay and probably buy the wrong one.

[rich_jc]

Dan,

Fairly easy job, prop out (undo centre bearing bolts), and if your gearbox has enough oil in, it will start coming out of the back of the box. Seal can then be removed and new one push fitted. Be prepared to top the gearbox back up with the correct oil. (there are many threads on here saying how to do this).

The negativity on this site really bothers me sometimes. I thought it was supposed to be a friendly forum giving advice to fellow enthusiasts?

Might as well replace the board with a banner saying "Read a haynes manual".

Rich

[rich_jc]

And apologies for being negative whilst moaning about people being negative.

Rich

[Ghia15]

I got my last oil seal for the type nine from my local ford parts counter.

Just went in and asked for the seal and said it was for a capri. They laughed, when I said it was also used on the sierra they went out back and came back to the counter with the bit I needed.

They also looked a little sheepish.

Never changed the seal mind you as I swapped the gearbox, was for a different reason to having a leaky seal, But been told that it can be done with the box in the car.

All the best

[stevemarl]

I feel as if you are asking for a step by step resto........

Get yourself a haynes and plod on with that.

The point about the Haynes is that you `ll read about the gearbox, for example, you will find out how to do the rear seal - BUT you`ll also get an idea of how it all fits together, how the speedo seals etc etc. Loads of peripheral stuff will be infused into your brain.
It`s the difference between learning about something, gaining knowledge, & just googleing some facts. Sure, you can tell a man how to change a seal and he`ll fix his car - but give him a Haynes and he`ll gain skills for life. (And let`s be honest, there are enough omissions / errors in books that such forums will still be needed)

[Matty2148]

Flat headed screwdriver, bend the end in a vice, remove the prop and fish it out then push the new one in, prepare to have a liter of dirty gearbox oil in your hair and wear gloves!!

[Sean007]

there a doodle, as above but id personally use a proper seal puller but a screwdriver will do i suppose lol
sean

[gilley576]

Sorry, I didn't mean for my post to sound arsey, I was fairly drunk when I wrote it, and now reading it, it was nothing like what I had in my mind.

[Peter-S]

I have the seals but obviously you wouldn't have thought to ask me - why would you, I have only been dealing in the cars and parts for over 20 years!
Best stick to E Bay and probably buy the wrong one.

Hard to resist such bon homie

[Bug]

Dan,
A few years back a girl joined Kings Lynn Capri Club with a Mk3 1600
She had no real idea of how to maintain it and spent weeks asking all sorts of questions (sound familiar?)
Anyway, in the end she came up with a great idea, which we subsequently used several more times.
Basically, she invited us all to her house for a bbq and plenty of beers, all free, as long as we all pitched in and fixed all the niggles on her Capri for her.
As far as I can remember it got a new water pump, fan belt etc, new brake pads and shoes, new ARB bushes, heater assembly swapped for a working one, radio fixed, various bulbs changed and several small cosmetic bits tidied up. She wore overalls all day and dived in, learning as much as she could. Most of the jobs entailed us instructing and helping if she got stuck.
The evening turned out to be a great party after a day of Capri-fettling.

Now maybe, if you could conjure up something similar, you might get a few takers, learn a lot and have a great day into the bargain.

[chris_v888]

we have all been there at one point on not knowing haw to do things i use to watch my dad when i was younger lots younger and read boos on cars and i wgent to do my city and gilds and all that reading payed of i knew more than the bloke teaching us so yes books help common sence is a good thing and have a go and it dont matter if you stuck and you can onty ask? i did a few weeks back about my steering? tryed all the things you thought it would be got lots of help on hear but it ended being the rack naff and none of us realy know how old you are so you can only ask for help?? so if stuck ask and pick a book up and have a good read you may be serprised sorry to go on but thought we where all hear to help and get help right you could drain oil out of box or drop prop off use a hock pick pull old seal out making shaw you dont damidge the tail end smear small bit of oil on new seal push it in remeber to put it in right way round if you have to use a socket the size of seal and pat it in remeber dot ask dont get sorry if i sounded bit shirty but we all have to start somewhere and the barby idear sounds good wonder if i done one id get a paint job n screen lol thanks all and all a good night

[rich_jc]

To be fair to Dan, his original question was "how easy is it to...", something which a haynes manual can't tell you.

Reading how to do something is one thing, but speaking to peeps with experience is invaluable. You never see haynes saying "whack it with a hammer" or "expect oil in the face" or "you will lose skin doing this job".

I've no problem trying to help people with what to me are simple jobs, we all had to learn somewhere. I shudder when I look back over the years at some of the questions I've asked, but it's always easy once you know.

Dan, I love your enthusiasm, you just seem a little lacking in confidence, which is something you will learn with experience. With respect, your "mates" sound like they could get you into all sorts of trouble, and if you valued their advice, you wouldn't be asking here.

You don't rely on your car (yet), so get stuck in. It's not as if you'll need it for work in the morning if you break something. If in real doubt, I'm sure, as Bug says, there will be someone somewhere who can swing by and lend a hand.

Rich

[pbar]

All that's really good advice. I just thought I'd add that, it's often far better to simply concentrate on one issue first and put all focus into that. At times, Dan seems to ask questions in different posts (I'm not criticising, honestly, it's just an observation), about multiple problems and issues which he has that even gets me stressed and it's not even my car! All focus and attention to the one matter at hand, sort that, learn that, then you will know about it forever and move onto the next one. Multi tasking doesn't exist, one thing at a time is the only way.

[chris_v888]

why is it that yoou give advice and we all seam to moan about it reading helps and keeps brain acktive but dont aske for help and as for one job at a time is the way to go as you may forget what was done and yes i would willingly go out of my way to help if i could only other day a bloke bit older than me 56 in a pop had bonnet upstopet to help it was just loos wier on coil but he got on his way and he allways toots when we see eachother thats the way it shuld be well lets let the por lad get on with oil seal and lets help eachother

[-JC-]

Yeah, chill guys, everyone was new to this sort of thing at some point. Don't shoot someone down for being keen to learn! A haynes manual may tell you *how* to do something but it can be quite daunting if you don't have prior experience, and they tend to assume you have experience. Posting on a forum can help fill in the blanks.

Also, do we really want to be convincing people to *not* post? That's how forums stagnate and die, and I'm sure no-one wants that.

I have the seals but obviously you wouldn't have thought to ask me - why would you, I have only been dealing in the cars and parts for over 20 years!
Best stick to E Bay and probably buy the wrong one.

Martin that wasn't what he asked. No offence, but because there's not much information on what you *do* supply, people often won't consider you as a first choice for things. That's not intentional, it's to do with brand visibility, and the relative ease of buying things online vs having to PM/call you and then sort out payments etc. Might be worth doing an ebay shop yourself if you want more business?

[pbar]

why is it that yoou give advice and we all seam to moan about it reading helps and keeps brain acktive but dont aske for help and as for one job at a time is the way to go as you may forget what was done and yes i would willingly go out of my way to help if i could only other day a bloke bit older than me 56 in a pop had bonnet upstopet to help it was just loos wier on coil but he got on his way and he allways toots when we see eachother thats the way it shuld be well lets let the por lad get on with oil seal and lets help eachother

My 'advice' right now, would be to please use punctuation, spelling and grammar! No offence, but posts like that are so hard to read and understand properly.

[Caprigear]

Yeah, chill guys, everyone was new to this sort of thing at some point. Don't shoot someone down for being keen to learn! A haynes manual may tell you *how* to do something but it can be quite daunting if you don't have prior experience, and they tend to assume you have experience. Posting on a forum can help fill in the blanks.

Also, do we really want to be convincing people to *not* post? That's how forums stagnate and die, and I'm sure no-one wants that.

I have the seals but obviously you wouldn't have thought to ask me - why would you, I have only been dealing in the cars and parts for over 20 years!
Best stick to E Bay and probably buy the wrong one.

Martin that wasn't what he asked. No offence, but because there's not much information on what you *do* supply, people often won't consider you as a first choice for things. That's not intentional, it's to do with brand visibility, and the relative ease of buying things online vs having to PM/call you and then sort out payments etc. Might be worth doing an ebay shop yourself if you want more business?

I break and restore/service the Capri for a living, selling parts all over the world - why would I not have the parts ? also, with my parts you get free advice and help whenever you need it. I don't see that with buying from E Bay, and you will get supplied with the correct items first time.
On the other hand, if you can't be arsed to pick up a phone or PM me then by all means crack on with E Bay.