Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:07 pm Posts: 37 Car(s): Ford Capri Laser 2.1 pinto (originally 1.6) (Daily Driver)
Hi all ive got a question regarding exhaust systems on the capri, im running a modified pinto engine (modded prior to me owning it) however its running the standard manifold and exhaust system.
The downpipe to me looks to be about 2" to long as it protrudes beneath the car and im a bit dubious about wether its the original downpipe or one off a sierra or other car that used to pinto engine.
Does the downpipe normally come down quiet far beneath the car has anyone got any pics of a normal hanging exhaust? I am considering changing to a 4-2-1 manifold and system but am wondering if this will still hang low at the front or if it will cure this issue.
dixy1949
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:59 pm
Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2009 3:04 pm Posts: 450 Location: co. durham(bottom end) Car(s): 1981 ford capri 2.0s, used regularly, megane 1.9 dci(wifes) quite enjoyable driving it!!!
mines the same & it,s bog standard, never given me any grief mate.
firstcapri
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:18 pm
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:07 pm Posts: 37 Car(s): Ford Capri Laser 2.1 pinto (originally 1.6) (Daily Driver)
In general its fine however occasionally i catch it on speed bumps and ive got a funny shaped drive and its scrapes on the way in and out, as its my daily driver id rather eliminate the problem. + its due for its test and ive found a hole in the middle section so if im gonna change the manifold and rest of it id rather do it now.
VitinhoMF
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:06 pm
Joined: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:32 am Posts: 95 Location: Portugal Car(s): Ford Capri Mk 2, 2.0 Pinto (Weekend and Holidays Driver) Seat Cordoba 1.4 (The cancer of the streets, daily driver) VW Beetle 1200 (Resto)
Same with mine....I think they are all like that, except V engines wich hang higher. If its not stainless an exhaust garage would possibly shape it to hang higher but..at least in my car, the exhaust is very low and still i feel a lot of heat and gases from it while i´m driving....
And my handbrake always gets very very hot because of the exhaust pipe being underneath..
Is your car lowered? If its not the exhaust shouldnt hit any bumps and its possibly hanging too low..
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AndyH
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:55 pm
Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:40 am Posts: 668 Location: Isle of Sheppey, Kent Car(s): 1998 Ford Transit (daily work van) 1986 2.0 Ford Capri (my project and fun car) 1998 BMW 318is 1999 Ford Cougar 2.5 V6
if its a modified pinto then chuck an ashley exhaust from rally design on it. i fitted mine a few weeks nack and dosent hang low whatso ever. its a perfect fit compared to the CCI one. Not cheap though. £130 for the manifold and £130 for the system.
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AndyH
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:56 pm
Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:40 am Posts: 668 Location: Isle of Sheppey, Kent Car(s): 1998 Ford Transit (daily work van) 1986 2.0 Ford Capri (my project and fun car) 1998 BMW 318is 1999 Ford Cougar 2.5 V6
A barge is often pulled by one horse, usually in a straight line.... A Capri is propelled by as many 'horses' as possible.......hardly ever in a straight line!!!
firstcapri
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:31 pm
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:07 pm Posts: 37 Car(s): Ford Capri Laser 2.1 pinto (originally 1.6) (Daily Driver)
Am i right in assuming that the CCI one also hangs low then? In the interest of saving a few quid has anyone tried the peter llyod system? as thats only £90 for manifold and £90 for system.? Otherwise i think ill go for the rally design setup as you have mentioned
Bug
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:10 pm
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:52 pm Posts: 1085 Location: Norfolk Car(s): '86 2.8i Special (Owned since 1989, now only Summer use) '86 2.0 Laser (Daily runner - already dreaming of upgrades!!) '76 Mk2 1.6GL (Bright orange! Technically 14-y-o son's car)
Yup, my lad's Mk2 has a full PLR manifold and system on. Ground clearance is fine. Needs some fine adjustment to clear the back axle, back left wheel etc, but that's mostly down to the 3" exit pipe, which fits close to the rear valance and leaves you less room to manoeuvre. Look on 'Members Cars' at the 'Father & Son Capris'. His is the Dukes of Hazzard one. Not the best photos of the ground clearance, but should give some idea.
tony2.1
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:13 pm
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:30 pm Posts: 79 Car(s): Long term project Capri - far too many mods & far too top secret to discuss at this stage!! ;-) , Daily driver Citreon Xsara estate (my reliable little chug!) Last completed Capri project C71 HHK - 2.8i Special; full rebuild & resto by myself, sold to a guy in Devon last year, most recent vehicle project VW T4 Transporter, converted by myself as a leisure and work vehicle & to promote my business - much like my Capri project
From memory, there are three main things on a Pinto with a standard system that will cause this problem:-
1) General fit and adjustment
2) Poor condition exhaust rubbers
3) 1600's and 2 litres across the years use different front & centre sections & a mix of the wrong combo can lead to exactly what you describe; the centre section being pushed too low by a front pipe that is the wrong shape and length for it.
firstcapri
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:58 pm
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:07 pm Posts: 37 Car(s): Ford Capri Laser 2.1 pinto (originally 1.6) (Daily Driver)
Ah that could well be it as she started out as a 1.6 and is now a 2.1. Well any how i am now anxiously awaiting arrival of peter llyod system so i will see what happens when that gets here!!
tony2.1
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:36 am
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:30 pm Posts: 79 Car(s): Long term project Capri - far too many mods & far too top secret to discuss at this stage!! ;-) , Daily driver Citreon Xsara estate (my reliable little chug!) Last completed Capri project C71 HHK - 2.8i Special; full rebuild & resto by myself, sold to a guy in Devon last year, most recent vehicle project VW T4 Transporter, converted by myself as a leisure and work vehicle & to promote my business - much like my Capri project
If you are using one complete system from one supplier and renewing all the rubber mounts, then as long as you take your time to align the system properly, I cant imagine that you'll have anymore issues!
Major_Tom
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:47 am
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:21 am Posts: 4817 Car(s): Rare Capri 2.0 "Eternobroke" model
I would actually suggest it may not be your exhaust rather your suspension. The rear leaf springs sag over time and so the back end starts to sit low. This often results in the car scraping its exhaust on the ground, happened to me for months until i changed the rear leaf springs since then i've had no more problems with scraping.
Wardy257
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:44 pm
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:55 pm Posts: 117 Car(s): Genuine Mk 2 Capri X Pack - project ZETEC Mk 1 Escort WIP Subaru Impreza Turbo - weekend car Mk 3a Fiesta Si 16v - shopping car
AndyH wrote:
if its a modified pinto then chuck an ashley exhaust from rally design on it. i fitted mine a few weeks nack and dosent hang low whatso ever. its a perfect fit compared to the CCI one. Not cheap though. £130 for the manifold and £130 for the system.
I have never seen the term perfect fit and Ashley Exhausts in the same post before!!!!
firstcapri
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:25 pm
Joined: Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:07 pm Posts: 37 Car(s): Ford Capri Laser 2.1 pinto (originally 1.6) (Daily Driver)
Thanks for advice all peter lloyd system now fitted and hung perfectly(the exhaust)!! Did take me 4 hours tho
tony2.1
Post subject: Re: Exhaust Hanging low
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:54 pm
Joined: Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:30 pm Posts: 79 Car(s): Long term project Capri - far too many mods & far too top secret to discuss at this stage!! ;-) , Daily driver Citreon Xsara estate (my reliable little chug!) Last completed Capri project C71 HHK - 2.8i Special; full rebuild & resto by myself, sold to a guy in Devon last year, most recent vehicle project VW T4 Transporter, converted by myself as a leisure and work vehicle & to promote my business - much like my Capri project
firstcapri wrote:
Thanks for advice all peter lloyd system now fitted and hung perfectly(the exhaust)!! Did take me 4 hours tho
No embarrassment there - just means your system is fitted right first time, unlike the work of many so called professionals I have witnessed over the years
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