Worrying times ahead...
- Fordoholic Nick
- Donator
- Posts: 6206
- Joined: Sat Apr 19, 2014 3:40 pm
- Car(s): Ford Capri 2.0 Laser,
Ford Fiesta 1.6 TDCi - Location: Enfield, London
Worrying times ahead...
Seen this short report on bbc news today and things are moving faster than expected.... The vey last comment is the most worrying.... although am sure this will have flexibility nearer the time. Don't think we will wake up the next day and that's it folks !!!!
https://youtu.be/ceWQI_gmFn4
https://youtu.be/ceWQI_gmFn4
I was born a Fordoholic, They'll bury me a Fordoholic...
- Peter-S
- Donator
- Posts: 7455
- Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:57 am
- Car(s): 1985 Capri 2.0
1983 Capri 2.8i - Location: Kent
- Contact:
Re: Worrying times ahead...
It is a concern Nick although with my few extra years on you I might more or less get away with it. After all I'll be nearly 70 when the new proposed date banning the sale of petrol/diesel cars kicks in. I'd think they must allow a good few years for old vehicles to still be used but I can see a gradual ban on non electric cars in city centres that will slowly expand to other areas or there will be hefty pollution charges. Time moves on I guess but none of it thrills me to think about.
- pbar
- Posts: 7533
- Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:29 pm
- Car(s): Capri 2.0 Laser, frequent driver.
- Location: North-West
Re: Worrying times ahead...
I watched a news item on TV this morning about this, it suggested that by 2030 non electric cars will pretty much be museum pieces. Makes you wonder if we should go to any great lengths when doing jobs on our cars, why bother, may as well just bodge it to keep going and drive them to death if we only have 9 and a bit years to drive them anyway!
The only saving grace, if this is true that is, is that I've heard that the classic car hobby is rife in Parliament (perhaps why there is free tax and no MOT on old cars?), meaning the powers that be would have some appeasement for us.
The only saving grace, if this is true that is, is that I've heard that the classic car hobby is rife in Parliament (perhaps why there is free tax and no MOT on old cars?), meaning the powers that be would have some appeasement for us.
- Jasonmarie
- Donator
- Posts: 4715
- Joined: Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:30 am
- Car(s): Ford Capri 2.0 Laser Mercury Grey 1987 hobby .
Mercedes Vito tourer 2.1 Big Bus Daily Driver - Location: Kent
Re: Worrying times ahead...
I say let’s drive our classics around London naked with big flags saying “ keep the pintos and ban the rest “
And playing the Dam-Busters music
Let’s have a poll and see who is up for this , Noel don’t worry as I know this is a normal weekend thing for you so that’s two of us
And playing the Dam-Busters music
Let’s have a poll and see who is up for this , Noel don’t worry as I know this is a normal weekend thing for you so that’s two of us
Ford Capri 2.0 Laser 1987 Mercury Grey .......
Re: Worrying times ahead...
Yes the poshos love their cars. Good old poshos!
I'm the one who leaves all those shoes in the carriageway.
Re: Worrying times ahead...
I love how they bang on about carbon neutrality whilst supporting a colossal international manufacturing industry.
I'm the one who leaves all those shoes in the carriageway.
-
- Donator
- Posts: 73
- Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:55 am
- Car(s): Ford Capri Cabaret 1.6,Ford Cortina MK5,1992 Ford Sierra Coupe,1988 Ford Sierra Coupe.Ford Sierra XR4i
Re: Worrying times ahead...
But the news report is stating the ban on FF vehicle sales. It's not saying FF is not going exist. Petrol will be around for decades
Re: Worrying times ahead...
Think of the tax they will lose on the prices at pumps They may well increase the price per litre to make it less appealing?
As mentoned above, certain 'poshos' have an interest in classic cars so that will slow down any of this nonsese!
Sooner my V8 gets here the better
As mentoned above, certain 'poshos' have an interest in classic cars so that will slow down any of this nonsese!
Sooner my V8 gets here the better
- Andrew 2.8i
- Donator
- Posts: 14773
- Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:38 pm
- Car(s): '83 2.8 Injection (sunny days only)
'04 Toyota MR2 (owned from new) - Location: Ceredigion
- Contact:
Re: Worrying times ahead...
Well, the absolute worst case scenario is that we've got another 10 years to enjoy our cars.....
I'd be absolutely amazed if petrol is not available for some years after 2030, I'm sure we'll have plenty more years left after that. Yes, the price of it will skyrocket, but that's to be expected.
At the moment, the Government has made the tax situation of electric cars advantageous because they want everybody to buy one. Once the revenue from tax on fossil fuels has dwindled as a result, they will have to increase tax on the purchase or running of electric cars to compensate, so we'll be no better off financially. Either that or introduce a new tax on something else. A tax on enjoyment or fun, perhaps?
Andrew.
I'd be absolutely amazed if petrol is not available for some years after 2030, I'm sure we'll have plenty more years left after that. Yes, the price of it will skyrocket, but that's to be expected.
At the moment, the Government has made the tax situation of electric cars advantageous because they want everybody to buy one. Once the revenue from tax on fossil fuels has dwindled as a result, they will have to increase tax on the purchase or running of electric cars to compensate, so we'll be no better off financially. Either that or introduce a new tax on something else. A tax on enjoyment or fun, perhaps?
Andrew.
Re: Worrying times ahead...
Hi AndrewAndrew 2.8i wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:26 am Well, the absolute worst case scenario is that we've got another 10 years to enjoy our cars.....
I think this year has taught us that no one knows what's around the corner let alone 10 years
Hence my decision to do something(s) I've been putting off for sometime
ATB
- Andrew 2.8i
- Donator
- Posts: 14773
- Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:38 pm
- Car(s): '83 2.8 Injection (sunny days only)
'04 Toyota MR2 (owned from new) - Location: Ceredigion
- Contact:
Re: Worrying times ahead...
Hi Andy,
I hope you're keeping safe and well.
You're quite right, of course. What I meant to say is that if we do happen to get another 10 years of enjoyment out of our Capris (or V8 Mustangs), that's a brilliant thing isn't it? In my opinion, what happens after that isn't worth losing sleep over right now.
Andrew.
Re: Worrying times ahead...
That was sort of my pointAndrew 2.8i wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:59 amHi Andy,
I hope you're keeping safe and well.
You're quite right, of course. What I meant to say is that if we do happen to get another 10 years of enjoyment out of our Capris (or V8 Mustangs), that's a brilliant thing isn't it? In my opinion, what happens after that isn't worth losing sleep over right now.
Andrew.
All ok here
Re: Worrying times ahead...
Something doesnt add up about this. I don't buy it. I think the gov is desperately trying to encourage buying of new cars to inject some £££ into the economy and do away with a large portion of the private used car industry. Think about it.... lets say nobody in Britain has a petrol car by 2030, and you want to drive to Spain where there's no or considerably less charging infrastructure, well, you're stuffed.
I'm the one who leaves all those shoes in the carriageway.
Re: Worrying times ahead...
With all the U turns the last few months, this will also be something else?!Major_Tom wrote: ↑Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:45 pm Something doesnt add up about this. I don't buy it. I think the gov is desperately trying to encourage buying of new cars to inject some £££ into the economy and do away with a large portion of the private used car industry. Think about it.... lets say nobody in Britain has a petrol car by 2030, and you want to drive to Spain where there's no or considerably less charging infrastructure, well, you're stuffed.
Probably just distracting the talking point away from Cummings etc.
Re: Worrying times ahead...
In the papers today https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/ca ... ing-uk-tax
If this does comes in, I would hope they scrap the current car tax/road tax (or whatever they decide to call it now). Should have done this along time ago and put it on the price per litre of fuel, so if you drive 50k miles a year in a 1.6 Focus you pay more than someone that drives 3k miles in a 3.0 Capri etc!
If/when all vehicles are electric in years to come, watch all the electricity prices increase then as a new sure way to hammer the motorist
If this does comes in, I would hope they scrap the current car tax/road tax (or whatever they decide to call it now). Should have done this along time ago and put it on the price per litre of fuel, so if you drive 50k miles a year in a 1.6 Focus you pay more than someone that drives 3k miles in a 3.0 Capri etc!
If/when all vehicles are electric in years to come, watch all the electricity prices increase then as a new sure way to hammer the motorist