The new alert system

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Re: The new alert system

Post by andyd » Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:23 am

Paul G wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:11 am
I think that the most of it is spread by the younger people who frankly feel "entitled" and don't give a flying fuck about anyone else other than themselves and their own entertainment. By this I mean all of them crowded into pubs, bars and cafes and more sinister these illegal raves going on all night. Just look at that shower of shit in Bristol over the weekend - the police should have gone in heavy- handed and fined the lot of them.

Anyone arriving in Australia has to quarantine for two weeks. Upon arrival they are taken to a hotel of the government's choice and have to stay there at their own expense for two weeks before being allowed out into the country at large. The hotel bills can be as much as AUD $3000 (about £1800) per person. The UK authorites should do similar.

I also think they should close the airports completely for the period of the lockdown. Looking at Flightradar 24 it is quite alarming to see the number of flights still coming in from high covid countries such as most of Europe, USA, China, Africa and of course the Indian subcontinent. Are you going to tell me that all these people can be trusted to self - isolate for 2 weeks? If you believe that then you would believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden!

Test and trace. Surely with all the clever people there are in this country there is someone (not being paid £6K per day) who could oversee this being run properly and efficiently. Half of the testing centres are empty. WTF is going on? The current lot couldn't organise a bunk up in a brothel. Get the army in if necessary.

I don't fully blame Boris for all this. He came into office with all the Brexit stuff going on then the Covid sprang up. He was ill himself and I think he has been badly advised as there seem to be so many differing opinions on what to do.

Ho Hum. Rant over.
Can't really argue with that Paul!

Too many of the young age group are to blame, Bristol and recently Nottingham a prime example. Maybe some water canons would help before a fine/arrest is issued? But there are stupid people of all ages which isn't reassuring :roll:

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Re: The new alert system

Post by Major_Tom » Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:55 pm

You can't blame people for not taking it seriously or for wondering if its true. I've said it before on here, the media got everyone worried about H5N1, SARS, Zika virus.... they all came to nothing. Now its the serious one is it? Its the boy who cried wolf. The people are right to be sceptical after years of being fed bullshit.

Then you have multiple MPs like Dominic Cummings flouting the rules.

So of course some members of the public are breaking the rules. Youre right to be angry, but be angry at the people who have helped break their trust and hence have no faith in 'doing the right thing'.
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Re: The new alert system

Post by andyd » Mon Nov 02, 2020 1:50 pm

Major_Tom wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:55 pm
You can't blame people for not taking it seriously or for wondering if its true. I've said it before on here, the media got everyone worried about H5N1, SARS, Zika virus.... they all came to nothing. Now its the serious one is it? Its the boy who cried wolf. The people are right to be sceptical after years of being fed bullshit.

Then you have multiple MPs like Dominic Cummings flouting the rules.

So of course some members of the public are breaking the rules. Youre right to be angry, but be angry at the people who have helped break their trust and hence have no faith in 'doing the right thing'.
:agree: MT, the government have been far from great with a lot of hypocrisy and have damaged trust, but we won't get out of it unless we all pull together.

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Re: The new alert system

Post by Andrew 2.8i » Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:36 pm

Major_Tom wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:55 pm
You can't blame people for not taking it seriously or for wondering if its true. I've said it before on here, the media got everyone worried about H5N1, SARS, Zika virus.... they all came to nothing. Now its the serious one is it? Its the boy who cried wolf. The people are right to be sceptical after years of being fed bullshit.
That could well have been true in the first few weeks or maybe a month, but this far into the pandemic it should be pretty clear to everybody that this a serious situation and not merely a false alarm.

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Re: The new alert system

Post by Major_Tom » Mon Nov 02, 2020 3:53 pm

Andrew 2.8i wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:36 pm
That could well have been true in the first few weeks or maybe a month, but this far into the pandemic it should be pretty clear to everybody that this a serious situation and not merely a false alarm.

Andrew.
Damage is done unfortunately. Earning back trust is not an easy process.

Plus there is compelling evidence that the testing methodology is flawed, many top scientists are saying the lockdown route is not the way to go, nobody in power seems to know what's best, so large numbers of people are going to be apathetic at best and some are outright rebelling. It's also symptomatic of larger discord in today's society too.

And we must remember that people don't like being told what to do. Its part of being human. We're here bemoaning folks for not wearing masks, but how many times have we broken the speed limit this year? Both technically could involve other people if our judgement is off, but here we are looking down on one misdemeanor while indulging in another. So don't be too eager to wish for tighter controls, same mindset wants to take our cars off us.
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Re: The new alert system

Post by Lord Flasheart » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:33 pm

Paul G wrote:
Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:11 am
I think that the most of it is spread by the younger people who frankly feel "entitled" and don't give a flying fuck about anyone else other than themselves and their own entertainment. By this I mean all of them crowded into pubs, bars and cafes and more sinister these illegal raves going on all night. Just look at that shower of shit in Bristol over the weekend - the police should have gone in heavy- handed and fined the lot of them.

Anyone arriving in Australia has to quarantine for two weeks. Upon arrival they are taken to a hotel of the government's choice and have to stay there at their own expense for two weeks before being allowed out into the country at large. The hotel bills can be as much as AUD $3000 (about £1800) per person. The UK authorites should do similar.

I also think they should close the airports completely for the period of the lockdown. Looking at Flightradar 24 it is quite alarming to see the number of flights still coming in from high covid countries such as most of Europe, USA, China, Africa and of course the Indian subcontinent. Are you going to tell me that all these people can be trusted to self - isolate for 2 weeks? If you believe that then you would believe in fairies at the bottom of the garden!

Test and trace. Surely with all the clever people there are in this country there is someone (not being paid £6K per day) who could oversee this being run properly and efficiently. Half of the testing centres are empty. WTF is going on? The current lot couldn't organise a bunk up in a brothel. Get the army in if necessary.

I don't fully blame Boris for all this. He came into office with all the Brexit stuff going on then the Covid sprang up. He was ill himself and I think he has been badly advised as there seem to be so many differing opinions on what to do.

Ho Hum. Rant over.
Come the revolution Paul, you get my vote for president mate ;)

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