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Re: Minimeet

Post by Major_Tom » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:30 am

andyd wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:34 pm

Oh no, it has to be a V8! Anything less is like going to a brothel and having a :wank: :lol:
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Re: Minimeet

Post by Major_Tom » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:32 am

mjcapri wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:42 am
Great pics, looks like you guys had a fun day!

Pedantry time.... If the Mustang isn’t a V8 is it not a 4cyl 2.3 turbo (basically detuned Focus RS engine)? The yanks got a n/a 3.7 V6 as their entry level engine but it was never available here, and seems a bit pointless tbh.

I can recommend the new Mustang, it’s too long to fit in my garage though which helped sway me towards the RS. I’d like to try the latest GT with the 10-speed box, it’s meant to be very good.
Ahhh maybe that's where I was confused, will bow to your superior Ford knowledge. Didn't realise it was detuned though, what's the reasoning behind detuning an engine to put into a heavier car?
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Re: Minimeet

Post by Major_Tom » Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:34 am

Caprifan Rob wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 6:36 pm

For past year I’ve been running this as a daily, and I can’t get enough of it. It’s partly why I’ve barely used the Capri, which I like just as much. Nothing sounds as good as a V8 but I’m well impressed with this Custom turbo model. This :ford: going to stay with me with for the foreseeable.
That does look nice. My mate likes his too!
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Re: Minimeet

Post by D366Y » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:50 am

Major_Tom wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:32 am
mjcapri wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:42 am
Great pics, looks like you guys had a fun day!

Pedantry time.... If the Mustang isn’t a V8 is it not a 4cyl 2.3 turbo (basically detuned Focus RS engine)? The yanks got a n/a 3.7 V6 as their entry level engine but it was never available here, and seems a bit pointless tbh.

I can recommend the new Mustang, it’s too long to fit in my garage though which helped sway me towards the RS. I’d like to try the latest GT with the 10-speed box, it’s meant to be very good.
Ahhh maybe that's where I was confused, will bow to your superior Ford knowledge. Didn't realise it was detuned though, what's the reasoning behind detuning an engine to put into a heavier car?
Standard Ford logic!

From memory the 2.3 in the Mustang puts out around 280-300bhp ish, but the exact same engine in the Focus RS puts out 350bhp.

I think it probably has something to do with being more economical and good for the environment rather than making it super sporty...? I mean if you wanted power you'd just buy the V8 I guess?
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Re: Minimeet

Post by mjcapri » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:21 pm

Major_Tom wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:32 am
mjcapri wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:42 am
Great pics, looks like you guys had a fun day!

Pedantry time.... If the Mustang isn’t a V8 is it not a 4cyl 2.3 turbo (basically detuned Focus RS engine)? The yanks got a n/a 3.7 V6 as their entry level engine but it was never available here, and seems a bit pointless tbh.

I can recommend the new Mustang, it’s too long to fit in my garage though which helped sway me towards the RS. I’d like to try the latest GT with the 10-speed box, it’s meant to be very good.
Ahhh maybe that's where I was confused, will bow to your superior Ford knowledge. Didn't realise it was detuned though, what's the reasoning behind detuning an engine to put into a heavier car?
Some would call me a sad act! :geek: :lol:

There are quite a few mechanical differences between the engines, the RS version has a different turbo, cylinder head, intercooler and various other bits. I’m guessing the upgraded parts were required to make the necessary power (350 then 375 horsies) reliably in a car that was built to be thrashed.

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Re: Minimeet

Post by Major_Tom » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:25 pm

Sounds like a fun engine. Do they scream?
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Re: Minimeet

Post by mjcapri » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:25 pm

D366Y wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:50 am
Major_Tom wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:32 am
mjcapri wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:42 am
Great pics, looks like you guys had a fun day!

Pedantry time.... If the Mustang isn’t a V8 is it not a 4cyl 2.3 turbo (basically detuned Focus RS engine)? The yanks got a n/a 3.7 V6 as their entry level engine but it was never available here, and seems a bit pointless tbh.

I can recommend the new Mustang, it’s too long to fit in my garage though which helped sway me towards the RS. I’d like to try the latest GT with the 10-speed box, it’s meant to be very good.
Ahhh maybe that's where I was confused, will bow to your superior Ford knowledge. Didn't realise it was detuned though, what's the reasoning behind detuning an engine to put into a heavier car?
Standard Ford logic!

From memory the 2.3 in the Mustang puts out around 280-300bhp ish, but the exact same engine in the Focus RS puts out 350bhp.

I think it probably has something to do with being more economical and good for the environment rather than making it super sporty...? I mean if you wanted power you'd just buy the V8 I guess?
Yes as much as we love V8’s on here, if the EcoBoost came with 350bhp I can imagine a lot of buyers opting for it over the 5.0. As it is, there’s a big enough gap in performance to justify the price and running costs if you’re that way inclined.

Incidentally, the new Focus ST also uses this engine, in that car it makes 280bhp.

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Re: Minimeet

Post by mjcapri » Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:38 pm

Major_Tom wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:25 pm
Sounds like a fun engine. Do they scream?
Nah it’s a typical direct injection turbo, mountains of mid-range torque and the power tails off at 6000rpm so there’s no point going to the red line (although it has funky shift lights if you do!). It sounds ok, plenty of pops and bangs from the exhaust, but the MK2 with the 2.5 5 cylinder wins on sound, they sound amazing!

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Re: Minimeet

Post by Jasonmarie » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:13 pm

In a upcoming book next year it does mention the 2.3 mustang engine as the second best engine in the world . :lol:
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Re: Minimeet

Post by Peter-S » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:16 pm

Jasonmarie wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:13 pm
In a upcoming book next year it does mention the 2.3 mustang engine as the second best engine in the world . :lol:
For the life of me I can't remember what the best would be :xd:
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Re: Minimeet

Post by Jasonmarie » Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:22 pm

Peter-S wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:16 pm
Jasonmarie wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:13 pm
In a upcoming book next year it does mention the 2.3 mustang engine as the second best engine in the world . :lol:
For the life of me I can't remember what the best would be :xd:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Now let me think :doh:
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Re: Minimeet

Post by D366Y » Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:58 am

Jasonmarie wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:22 pm
Peter-S wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:16 pm
Jasonmarie wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:13 pm
In a upcoming book next year it does mention the 2.3 mustang engine as the second best engine in the world . :lol:
For the life of me I can't remember what the best would be :xd:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Now let me think :doh:
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Re: Minimeet

Post by Jasonmarie » Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:17 pm

D366Y wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 11:58 am
Jasonmarie wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:22 pm
Peter-S wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:16 pm


For the life of me I can't remember what the best would be :xd:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Now let me think :doh:
We talking about the Essex again? ;)
Is that Essex woman ? :lol:
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Re: Minimeet

Post by Mc Tool » Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:54 am

Jasonmarie wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:13 pm
In a upcoming book next year it does mention the 2.3 mustang engine as the second best engine in the world . :lol:
Aw get your hand off it :lol:
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