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Re: WD-40

Post by Jasonmarie » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:24 pm

stevemarl wrote:
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Jasonmarie wrote:
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I also spray the wheel arches with the rust blocker on the Capri every winter lay up .
Yep, that`s the sort of thing I was thinking of.
You`re the forum horologist?
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Re: WD-40

Post by stevemarl » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:02 am

Fordoholic Nick wrote:
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ot heard it called this before Steve
We live and learn Nick, we live and learn :lol:

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Re: WD-40

Post by stevemarl » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:04 am

Fordoholic Nick wrote:
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Now clock oil there’s a story
Do you do ancient grandfather type things, or more watches? And do i get one free question?

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Re: WD-40

Post by Jasonmarie » Wed Feb 12, 2020 12:57 am

Have done grandfather clocks but they don’t like heat and cold so can really be a pain in the backside to set up , also having the space to work on them . But yes my bread and butter is pocket watches or clocks . High end watch’s and clocks are worth having serviced any thing under £200 to £500 then it might cost more to get working as parts have to be made and jewels have become expensive .
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Re: WD-40

Post by mjcapri » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:59 am

I won’t go on a WD-40 rant :whistle: but what does does everybody use the stuff for? It’s ok for displacing moisture but not much else....

For a quick spray on corrosion protector ACF-50 is good stuff:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ACF-50-Motorcy ... 729&sr=8-3

I use GT85 for general light lube and penetrating purposes (ooh err!).

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Re: WD-40

Post by pbar » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:05 am

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I won’t go on a WD-40 rant :whistle: but what does does everybody use the stuff for? It’s ok for displacing moisture but not much else....
HI, thanks for bringing this back to topic. I get through loads of the stuff, many of us do. It does seem to help loads getting stuck/awkward parts off, although I do know there are many products out there for this. I use it to clean with also, not only parts that are going back on but wiping the engine/bay with a WD-40 soaked cloth works wonders for example. And as mentioned, a spray on the vulnerable parts over winter too. It soon gets used up!

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Re: WD-40

Post by stevemarl » Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:53 am

It`s a useful general purpose water displacer/penetrating oil/lube. It`s not the absolute best at any one thing, but it does them all reasonably well which is why everyone has a tin. I`ve got shelves full of greases and oils, but if you`ve not got that much space (or interest) WD does most things reasonably well. A bit like the Ford Escort of the oil world.
Back off topic ;) (although it is mechanical so may be of interest?)
Jason,
I have a grand-daughter clock from when my uncle died. It all works except (contradiction) it always stops at 57 past the hour, as it starts to activate the hourly chime mechanism. If I take off the pendulum (so it runs at 3x speed) it WILL get past this point and complete the cycle. When it reaches 57, normally, the finger stops moving but the escapement continues for a time - sometimes it will eventually overcome the resistance and begin to move again past the hour: but mostly it eventually stops. If you move the finger by hand you can feel definite resistance at 57. What I wondered was: as the finger stops but ticking continues, there must be some kind of `slipping` point in the drive (as otherwise the ticking would stop when the fingers stop?) OR, is there something slipping which shouldn`t? It all moves so slowly it`s really hard to tell what`s driving what, but should there be some point at whih the drive to the fingers can `slip`? (The Westminster chimes all work (1/4, 1/2, 3/4) without a problem, BTW, but turned off at moment.) I know it`s probably impossible to diagnose like this, just wondered if anything obvious sprang to mind.

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Re: WD-40

Post by Jasonmarie » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:14 pm

Could be a few things if a simple mechanism like a smiths or German HAC with the Westminster there should be 3 key winding holes ,have you let the chimes run out of steam or does it have a chimes on / off leaver on the clock face ?
Or do you have a two key winding where it chimes or wind . .? Or a posh clock will have a round chime dial with a fast and slow dial on the clock ?
Quick Top Tip on old clocks never turn the clock hands anti clockwise “ they say it’s unlucky “ but will knock a cog out or brass sleeves depends how old the clock is . That can cause a sticking .
But there is sometimes on a granddaughter clock or grandfather a lock / hands what will be on the left hand side of the back of the clock .
This also can cause a freeze of hands .
If it’s 57 all the time it does sound like the teeth of the 2nd or 3rd wheel

No WD40 in a clock as well just to stay on topic .

Also sorry how old is the clock
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Re: WD-40

Post by stevemarl » Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:15 pm

Thanks Jason, all I know is my Aunty & Uncle had it at least as long as I`ve been alive, so at least 20years... OK 60 years! I know it`s not antique but maybe early 20th century? It IS solid rather than plywood. Spring driven, not weights, and a `conventional toothed wheel/ rocker escapement (don`t know the terms). It does have 3 holes: clock, hour chime and Westminster. The Westminster/Winchester has a lever which turns those chimes off: they work off a drum with pins (like a musical box) selected by a dial at the top. As I say they`re no problem, it`s just the hour chime which is dragging so much that it`s stopping. So you think the 2nd or 3rd wheel - is that from the coil spring or from the escapement? I`ll get it out this weekend and have a proper look.
I know you can`t diagnose but that IS actuallyquite helpful, at least I`ve an idea where to start. Cheers!

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Re: WD-40

Post by Jasonmarie » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:54 am

stevemarl wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2020 7:15 pm
Thanks Jason, all I know is my Aunty & Uncle had it at least as long as I`ve been alive, so at least 20years... OK 60 years! I know it`s not antique but maybe early 20th century? It IS solid rather than plywood. Spring driven, not weights, and a `conventional toothed wheel/ rocker escapement (don`t know the terms). It does have 3 holes: clock, hour chime and Westminster. The Westminster/Winchester has a lever which turns those chimes off: they work off a drum with pins (like a musical box) selected by a dial at the top. As I say they`re no problem, it`s just the hour chime which is dragging so much that it`s stopping. So you think the 2nd or 3rd wheel - is that from the coil spring or from the escapement? I`ll get it out this weekend and have a proper look.
I know you can`t diagnose but that IS actuallyquite helpful, at least I`ve an idea where to start. Cheers!
Hope it’s something easy like good old dirt but I guess it needs a full service and clean , I say take as many pictures as you can if you start taking things apart and make sure the springs are unwind .
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Re: WD-40

Post by Mc Tool » Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:44 pm

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the degreaser usually on sale for about 3 bucks a can , comes with a real fire hose nozzle , but if you sub a crc nozzle with the straw it last way longer and can be used for more accurate shots , awesome stuff for cleaning out fuel galleries in carbs and finding out where the passages actually go ( you can see it coming out the other end ). Its also water soluble and dries to nothing. long life stays put for ages and dries to about the same as 30w motor oil , great for storing guns , tools and parts etc
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Re: WD-40

Post by tejb1 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:06 am

It does many things - yes, all things that other products will do better - but as a multipurpose thing to keep in the back of the car, or toolbox, it's incredibly useful.

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Re: WD-40

Post by Andrew 2.8i » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:05 am

Mc Tool wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:44 pm
awesome stuff for cleaning out fuel galleries in carbs and finding out where the passages actually go ( you can see it coming out the other end ). Its also water soluble and dries to nothing. long life stays put for ages and dries to about the same as 30w motor oil , great for storing guns , tools and parts etc
Sounds great, too bad they don't sell it in the UK.
Here's another product that we can't get over here, can you buy this stuff in NZ?

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I've no real need for it, but I think a can would look great on a shelf in the garage!

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Re: WD-40

Post by Jasonmarie » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:57 am

:lol: Yes back in the day I would have used this :lol:
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Post by Mc Tool » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:51 pm

Yep ,we get that here too. The nulon stuff and the sca stuff is aussie but the crc you should be able to get , not everyone here stocks it so it aint that common .
Want me to send you some of these products ,I can find out how much to send if you give me a post code and let you know . :)
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