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Andrew 2.8i wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:25 am
(Some extra dots for Paul) ........................................................................................................................................................... :D :lol: :D

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stevemarl wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:03 pmThis?
Beautiful! My Mrs' favourite car.
Personally I think the original Rally wheels look best on the C3, but these do suit it.
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stevemarl wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2019 10:03 pmThis?
Yes, seen it a few times now, very striking some of those American muscle cars. I know some of the American car guys from the other shows, nice chaps.
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OMG the dots again... This IS really, really weird. I mean seriously spooky. I watched a film last night from 1975 and bugger me if they didn`t actually use the very device we were discussing, aposiopesis. A man on the fringe of society, disfunctional, damaged Vietnam veteran decides to make a stand against the scum and filth he`s surrounded by : "here is a man who would not take it any more. Here is..." (Three dots)
10 points and lots of Kudos if you can name the film?
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stevemarl wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:59 am
10 points and lots of Kudos if you can name the film?
Taxi Driver?
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Spot on! You win a couple of coil springs to re-purpose into a garden ornament with your welder! What a great film that is.
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Great! Watched it quite recently, we certainly knew how to make a film back then.

Now that's a proper traditional use of the ellipsis, the dots to represent something missing.

Actually not that common in the real world, when compared to the internet one.

Those coil springs are just right for a pig's tail I think :)
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Paul, it`ll need to be one helluva big pig to support the weight of them sticking out of it`s backside!!!! :D :D :D

Bernard Herrman`s score for that film is just absolutely perfect too, the sleazy, bluesy feel - brilliant.

I agree abiut the dots in this instance, but I would argue that has always been my intent when using them, always to convey that there was more/ something missing, a thought that drifts away, wistfully, an unfinished sentence.
"here is ..." what? What is he, what is he going to do? What`s missing? And of course you don`t know (well , you do if you`ve seen it 4 times.) A bit like I was going to start my previous post `And the winner is...` lt just conveys something that is very difficult otherwise to express and TBH I`d feel lost without it as a tool.

You know, I can`t help thinking if we`d titled this thread `Can an ellipsis ever legitimately be used as an aposiopesis`- how many more people would have joined in?
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Andrew 2.8i wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:25 am Is it the original factory paint as I don't recall you ever mentioning having any bodywork done?
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It has had some paint in the past, the front wing was keyed in the early `80s, then I was going up the M6 to Scotland, I remember this vividly, a Mk2 Escort was coming up the slip road and it must`ve clipped some debris with the edge of it`s tyre - which sent it flying across the carriageway into my path (the debris not the Escort!). Hit the front edge of the bonnet breaking the plastic trim and leaving a small dent in the bonnet. These were all done at Manchester Garages, the main dealer, so not cheap repairs. Even so, around the late 90s I started to get tiny cracks in the lacquer on these areas, which got worse & worse. (Long story of trying to repair with inferior paints and inadequate equipment which I`ll skip) Fortunately by the millenium I`d managed go get a decent compressor & gun (and had plenty of practice on the Viva) so I refinished the os wing and bonnet myself in 2008. Touch wood that`s seems to be holding up well. But to answer your question, yes, other than that it`s all original paint. It was my daily driver for the first 4 years so in Manchester that means dings, keying and slashed tyres...
This is a better picture, captures the colour better, on the Great Orme a couple of years back.
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stevemarl wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:10 amThis is a better picture, captures the colour better, on the Great Orme a couple of years back.
Hey Steve.

You just put a massive :D on my face fella !! Not seen a picture of your Laser for a long time and here's TWO for the price of one !!! Love it ! Both great photos Steve. Your Laser is looking superb mate ! Thanks for the pictures. Made my day :applaud:

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I ssid it to you a long time ago. Its anazing you have owned her since new !! Very cool indeed sir and a credit to you how lovely she is. Not many of us can say we know every bit of work that has been done to our beloved Capris. Sure B112 has had eight previous owners and after 10yrs of ownership I am finally getting to the point where all the botches and shortcuts previous owners have done have been rectified !! Still a couple more but almost there Steve !! :lol:

Once again thanks for the pictures of yours. It really is a stunning example of a one owner from new Capri !! :D
stevemarl wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:10 am in tne early '80s, then I was going up the M6 to Scotland, I remember this vividly, a Mk2 Escort was coming up the slip road and it must`ve clipped some debris with the edge of it`s tyre - which sent it flying across the carriageway into my path (the debris not the Escort!). Hit the front edge of the bonnet breaking the plastic trim and leaving a small dent in the bonnet
:shock: Steve in the early '80s me and a mate drove up to tour round Scotland in my Mk2 Escort...and we did take the M6 :o do you remember if it was a Red Mk2 Escort by any chance... :wave: :lol:
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Didn't realise you had owned it from new :o
That's a great achievement, and with pretty much original paintwork that nice for you, and would be a buyers dream if/when you ever sell it :cheers:
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Fordoholic Nick wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:19 am o do you remember if it was a Red Mk2 Escort by any chance... :wave: :lol:
Nick, no it was definitely a white one. :D :D It`s funny, 35 years ago- but if I close my eyes I can see it now, the lump of metal flying in slow motion through the air straight into my path, 70mph, cars either side, nowhere to go... Bang!
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andyd wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:50 pm Didn't realise you had owned it from new :o
That's a great achievement, and with pretty much original paintwork that nice for you, and would be a buyers dream if/when you ever sell it :cheers:
It`s a weird story, I`d hired a new (then, `84) Astra Van, really liked it, went to Wales and back in the day - great drive. So I decided I needed a new car & went looking at Astras, but they were really new and flying off the shelves so no negotiation on price. Plus the ride strangely was shockingly harsh and bouncy compared to the van. How could I justify spending so much on a car that was less comfy than the Viva? Basically I went down the road to the Ford main dealer and they had this brand new Laser in metallic mineral blue on the turntable in the window under the lights... love at first sight, no other way to describe it. Plus, they would give me £600 off for cash so I got all the extras, tints, alloys, sunroof, etc - for less than Vauxhall wanted for a 4speed Astra with steel wheels and 9k on the clock!
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stevemarl wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:54 pm
andyd wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:50 pm Didn't realise you had owned it from new :o
That's a great achievement, and with pretty much original paintwork that nice for you, and would be a buyers dream if/when you ever sell it :cheers:
It`s a weird story, I`d hired a new (then, `84) Astra Van, really liked it, went to Wales and back in the day - great drive. So I decided I needed a new car & went looking at Astras, but they were really new and flying off the shelves so no negotiation on price. Plus the ride strangely was shockingly harsh and bouncy compared to the van. How could I justify spending so much on a car that was less comfy than the Viva? Basically I went down the road to the Ford main dealer and they had this brand new Laser in metallic mineral blue on the turntable in the window under the lights... love at first sight, no other way to describe it. Plus, they would give me £600 off for cash so I got all the extras, tints, alloys, sunroof, etc - for less than Vauxhall wanted for a 4speed Astra with steel wheels and 9k on the clock!
best money I`ve ever spent!
I can imagine how you felt seeing it in the showroom.
You've certainly had your £5653.46p worth and still got a great investment :D
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Just re. having painted parts of the Capri myself. Gives the impression of aerosols, orange peel, runs etc. I just wanted to show that it is possible to get really decent results at home with quality materials and plenty of patience, its never a quick job, but as an example here is the Uno`s bonnet which I painted last year, this photographed particularly well, maybe `cos it`s black? No special skill, just a decent gun, elbow grease and good materials: I`m quite proud of this one TBH. (how do I make the image fill the page like Andrews Uno???)
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stevemarl wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:43 pm Just re. having painted parts of the Capri myself. Gives the impression of aerosols, orange peel, runs etc. I just wanted to show that it is possible to get really decent results at home with quality materials and plenty of patience, its never a quick job, but as an example here is the Uno`s bonnet which I painted last year, this photographed particularly well, maybe `cos it`s black? No special skill, just a decent gun, elbow grease and good materials: I`m quite proud of this one TBH. (how do I make the image fill the page like Andrews Uno???) DSCF5651.JPG
Black is very unforgiving, but looks like a really good job :cool: They always say it's in the prep work.

My pics come out the same size as yours :? If it's too technical that's how they will stay :lol:

PS. Have you had the Uno from new too :)
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No, my brother had it from new but by 2003 he`d run it into the ground and was getting a new Punto. My Viva was really in need of a full restoration, the bidy realistically was beyond repair (I even had stress cracks where the lower arms pivoted in the crossmember !) As the dealer wouldn`t take the Uno in PX it was either off to the scrapper or I took it as my daily /rolling resto. and sadly said goodbye to the Viva. Which was really sad, my first car. Capri at this point was in storage as I couldn`t afford the insurance, the Viva was much, much cheaper (not yet old enough for classic insurance)
The Uno was really in a state though, needed welding to lower edges of sills but that was nothing compared to the electrics. I`m not lying when I say that there was not a single electrical device that was fully working, if at all. But I think probably 6 nonths and it was pretty well sorted, mostly bad earths, brushes, bearings - everything was actually repairable - he`d just never bothered. (there were NO working bulbs in the instruments display, so no speedo at night: the wipers would run for a minute or two then seize and you had to wait a few minutes for them to cool down. Great in a thunderstorm on the M60! And THIS shed was owned and driven by a man who runs a pathology lab at a major teaching hospital... Since I rescued it, It`s actually I think failed 1 MOT for a deteriorated flexi pipe, but amazingly (for a Fiat) never for corrosion, unlike his Punto, now his wife`s Punto, which now needs welding almost eery year.
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stevemarl wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:43 pm (how do I make the image fill the page like Andrews Uno???)
You'll have to use the old-school method of uploading photos into your post (Flickr, Postimages, Photobucket etc).
The Uno bonnet looks superb. Home spraying is an area I'd like to get into for performing repairs to small areas, is it possible you can list the equipment that you use? Thanks.

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stevemarl wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:27 pm No, my brother had it from new but by 2003 he`d run it into the ground and was getting a new Punto. My Viva was really in need of a full restoration, the bidy realistically was beyond repair (I even had stress cracks where the lower arms pivoted in the crossmember !) As the dealer wouldn`t take the Uno in PX it was either off to the scrapper or I took it as my daily /rolling resto. and sadly said goodbye to the Viva. Which was really sad, my first car. Capri at this point was in storage as I couldn`t afford the insurance, the Viva was much, much cheaper (not yet old enough for classic insurance)
The Uno was really in a state though, needed welding to lower edges of sills but that was nothing compared to the electrics. I`m not lying when I say that there was not a single electrical device that was fully working, if at all. But I think probably 6 nonths and it was pretty well sorted, mostly bad earths, brushes, bearings - everything was actually repairable - he`d just never bothered. (there were NO working bulbs in the instruments display, so no speedo at night: the wipers would run for a minute or two then seize and you had to wait a few minutes for them to cool down. Great in a thunderstorm on the M60! And THIS shed was owned and driven by a man who runs a pathology lab at a major teaching hospital... Since I rescued it, It`s actually I think failed 1 MOT for a deteriorated flexi pipe, but amazingly (for a Fiat) never for corrosion, unlike his Punto, now his wife`s Punto, which now needs welding almost eery year.
At least you rescued it :cheers:

The Viva is a rare car now, I see hardly any at shows.
The owner of the garage that works on my car has a 1972 Viva with a Rover V8 engine, sounds great.
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Andrew, Firstly is yours a solid or metallic? By small repairs do you mean doors, or bonnets or literally small `spot` repairs? I ask because for small repairs you really can`t beat an air-brush. Adjustable from a pencil line to wide enough for a 3-4" fan and you can use a really light coat to blend really well. I have a single action Badger one I`ve had for years, fitted with a medium needle - that`s perfect for say a minor repair to the Fiat`s wheel arch (black solid colour = easy to blend) If as I suspect, yours is a light metallic (?) really you`re not going to be able to do spot repairs, the metallic partiicles will never `lie` the same and the edge will always show. Can be blended in but obviously you need to cover larger areas - and this requires a lot more skill and practice (than I have.)
Whole panels, I`ve got a V twin compressor which I think is rated at 13.8cfm, was an end of line at Screwfix IIRC, and the gun is a Devilbiss `Startline` . I used to have an SIP gun which was OK, but this latest one, the fan is just unbelievably controlled. Rather than a sort of elliptical pattern with a wet patch in the middle it`s a uniform light even pattern extending over a foot wide. It`s just incredibly easy to use like a gentle foot wide paintbrush. The compressor is just about able to `outrun` the guns needs which means I could in theory paint an entire car without stopping for the compressor to `catch it`s breath`. Previously I could only do 2/3 the Capri bonnet before the pressure started dropping.
All the materials, preparing, compounding, polishing etc are 3m. I just figure they are such a huge established company and they have colour coded progressive grades, just makes sense to stick with them. The paint is pretty much any air drying acrylic from Colourtone or any other paint supplier, never had a problem with paint deteriorating or breaking down. Clear lacquer on the other hand... I could write pages about the problems I`ve had with lacquers, usually starting to split/ crack after a year or two. Or 6 months. Regardless of how well prep`d I had nothing but trouble. Finally I discovered some made by Belco, who`ve been around since early 1900s, used to be part of ICI. This works great, I have paint that`s been on for 15 years and is still perfect. So they stopped making it :(
I have been using Lechler Acrifan now which seems really good, (that`s on the Uno bonnet) been on the Uno for a few years now with no deterioration. Like the Belco, you can spray onto polyethylene , let it dry, then peel off the paint film. Even after a year the film will still be flexible and elastic, which bodes well.
Oh dear, I`ve gone on a bit haven`t I? I do like painting.
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