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diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by rousecapri » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:49 am

as title says. modern diesel lump in a capri yes or no?
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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by STEVEW » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:59 am

Why fit a modern diesel lump in a Capri?
At least, the original engines have genuine emissions. ;)

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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by rousecapri » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:27 am

Easy 250bhp with 550nm+ with 40+mpg. You know it makes sense
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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by Peter-S » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:24 am

Saw a diesel in a Capri at East Kirkby a few years ago, think it was just a Ford lump.
Your call of course. Not my thing, I've stuck with petrol even in the daily but be interested to see what you come up with but wasn't it your tag that used to say no replacement for displacement?
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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by rousecapri » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:44 am

It was :). She will still be a 3lt :)
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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by pbar » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:11 am

No thanks, Capri engines for Capri cars :)

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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by andyd » Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:15 am

pbar wrote:No thanks, Capri engines for Capri cars :)
:agree:

Although a Rover or American V8 is also ok with me :D

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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by Not_Anumber » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:42 pm

Cant see any reason why not so long as its a reasonable sized diesel. Are you thinking V6 ?

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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by rousecapri » Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:04 pm

The BMW m57 3lt
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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by Not_Anumber » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:47 pm

From memory thats a straight 6 engine. A lovely engine but I'd fear it might compromise the handling as the weight of the front of the engine would be quite a bit further forward than the front suspension was intended to carry.

How about a V6 Mercedes diesel ?

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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by rousecapri » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:54 pm

The engine is going to be no further forward than the Essex that was in there. It's 40kg heavier but the gear box and bell housing is lighter than the four speed that was behind the Essex.
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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by mjcapri » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:08 am

Not for me I’m afraid, it would shift in a straight line but I’m not sure how much fun it would be. My local BMW garage loaned me a 330d when my 5 Series was in for a recall, and whilst the torque was fun for a while the novelty soon wore off. It wasn’t a drivers car by any means. I’d be interested to try a 335d although I suspect it would be more of the same, just a bit quicker still.

If I were going to fit a modern engine in a Capri I’d go Ecoboost, 1.6 or 2.0. Probably actually the 1.6 as it’s nice and light, and there are loads of little Fiesta ST’s whizzing about with near to 300bhp.

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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by Not_Anumber » Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:40 pm

Im guessing this is an engine you already own so want to use it, rather than looking for suggestions of what engine to buy ?

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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by ThatGuy » Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:48 pm

I thought about doing this a while ago for the same reasons as you, but never did anything about it, have a search on capripower I'm sure someone on there did the exact swap your talking about
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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by rousecapri » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:29 pm

Yes I have the donor vehicle already.
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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by Bug » Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:36 pm

mjcapri wrote: It wasn’t a drivers car by any means. I’d be interested to try a 335d although I suspect it would be more of the same, just a bit quicker still.
My daily is a 335d X-drive touring shadow edition (thank goodness they don't write all that on the boot!)
For all the initial excitement about a diesel estate getting to 60 in 4.6 seconds, in fact it is the huge amount of torque that makes the car.
465 lbs/ft at only 1200rpm. It really is borderline scary at times.
The X-drive does make it a tad understeery but as a 'drivers car' ? Yes! Absolutely. I drive it in the same manner as I did my 2.8i and it responds well. Slow to the apex, then hammer down.
Forget 'quicker' think more 'grunt' and exiting a bend like an Exocet on steroids. After all, my lad's Fiesta will get him banned, as can most cars these days. It's the B-road runs that decide a good car for me.

However, the BMW is obviously built to take that straight 6, with all the suspension tweaks it needs.
I think a Capri would need a bit of lateral thinking to keep the balance right. Harder front? softer rear? Battery in the boot etc.

I would also want the 8-speed auto box. It is phenomenal and if you could also fit the flappy paddles it would be an awesome machine.
I think the electronics would be the big show stopper. That, and brakes that didn't just deploy a white flag.

No it's not purist, but then the Capri was a modders car from day 1. Why would you want to completely stop that tradition. It is part of the history of the car.

Would need a lot of research and even more money, but I would love to see that combo on the road.

Oh, and one final requirement................... with all that torque you would need to find someone that could design an axle that didn't resemble a cough candy twist after the first launch :)

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Re: diesel engine in a capri? discuss

Post by rousecapri » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:58 pm

I will start to post pictures up when I remember how to do it on here. The donor engine and box is out of the E46. I will be getting the immobilizer removed from the ECU, then getting it remapped (250bhp and 550nm) also there is a plug and play loom to get the m57 to run on the floor, this will then be adapted as req. Hopefully looking to start this week or if not it will be next week fingers crossed
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