*STOLEN* White Mk3 Capri B562CTW Oldbury, Midlands c31/07/14

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escortmad79 wrote:Unfortunately thieves are resorting to all sorts of tactics to steal cars, they'll not think twice about using a Hiab, you can fit 4 wheel clamps, disklok etc but they won't stop a Hiab.
Oh dear, those are some really extreme thefts that you have detailed in your post.
Perhaps having a tracker fitted is our only realistic opportunity to get our cars retrieved if they are stolen.

I like the idea of chaining the axle to an eyelet concreted into the garage floor.

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Tracker is the best option. Two mk1 Escorts have been recovered which have been fitted with a tracker, the most recent was a few months ago.

Trackers can be found & removed though if not hidden well enough
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As said, all those are very extreme. Your average scally won't be lifting a roof off a garage. He will be lurking on the streets at 3.00am to see what he can have a go at. So yes, a disklok, wheel clamp, alarm, security post, etc. will all help, without question to put someone like that off and/or slow them down. It's common sense, if you're walking along a line of cars looking to have a go, and one has a wheel lock, the other an alarm, one a rottweiler in the passenger seat, one Mike Tyson in the back, one wired up to the National grid, and one with nothing. Then which one would you think of trying.
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The majority of these cars aren't being nicked by your average scally though! They are being nicked by professional gangs

Put a Capri or Mk1 Escort on the street with a steering lock next to a standard Mondeo with no security, a joyrider may go for the Mondeo but a lot of thieves will go for the more desirable option even if it involves removing security devices first.
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escortmad79 wrote:The majority of these cars aren't being nicked by your average scally though! They are being nicked by professional gangs
Hi,
I wonder if the recent upsurge in Capri prices may make our cars more of a target for the professional thief in prefernce to mk 1 and 2 Escorts? After all, the average Escort owner is probably more aware of the value of their cars and will take more measures to protect them.

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The irony of all this, is that if the average Capri owner was to park his car on Asda car park (for example), then his car would probably be one of the cheapest on there.
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pbar wrote:Your average scally won't be lifting a roof off a garage. He will be lurking on the streets at 3.00am to see what he can have a go at.
Such as Hazel Grove last night. Scary.
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stevemarl wrote:Such as Hazel Grove last night. Scary.
Hi,
Is this a reference to the arson attacks? As you say, it must have been extremely frightening to have been on that street last night. At least we can be thankful that no-one was injured.
Unfortunately, it's just not possible to protect your property against such mindless intentional acts of vandalism. Sure, the Police may catch the offenders but that is of little consolation to the innocent victims.

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Exactly, one assumes there is at least some reasoning behind even criminal activity. The fact these are random, indiscriminate attacks (there have been tyre slashing incidents previously) is particularly worrying. I mean society only functions at all because there`s a consensus and most people follow the rules; if enough decided not to, the `law` would not be able to contain the resultant chaos....
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stevemarl wrote:
pbar wrote:Your average scally won't be lifting a roof off a garage. He will be lurking on the streets at 3.00am to see what he can have a go at.
Such as Hazel Grove last night. Scary.
I didn't know about that Steve, you just made me look it up on the net just now. Horrible.
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Couple of years ago, we had a gang of kids, only 13ish y.o., went down the street walking over the cars, ripping off mirrors and smashing a couple of screens. Not in a rush, just strolling along, no worries. Went across the park at the end of the road and into the estate beyond where they did a couple more mirrors before retiring home, no doubt for a final session of GTA...
Honestly, hand on heart, I have never, ever, for a moment thought of doing such a thing. What`s happening?
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This kind of thing, it's simply beyond words Steve.
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stevemarl wrote:Couple of years ago, we had a gang of kids, only 13ish y.o., went down the street walking over the cars,
Steve,
On a similar note, this well-publicised story:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ebook.html

As you say, the thought wouldn't even enter my mind to do such a thing. At the risk of sounding old, I suppose that's the youth of today.

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Hi,
I forgot to mention. This story was printed in our local paper. Thankfully the youth in the story had been traced and prosecuted for his actions. He was ordered to pay only £300 compensation which, I imagine, won't go very far towards repairing the McLaren. His lawyer claimed that "he had no intention of damaging" the car!
Do you know what the really concerning aspect of this crime was? The youth's mother was with him at the time of the misdemeanour! What is going on in this country?

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Also worrying, some of the comments (in the Mail) were suggesting he got what he deserved for parking on yellow lines: " it`s cheaper than the cost of repairing damage in a car park." Okay he IS probably a.... whatever - but that`s NOT why this lad did what he did, he did it because it was nice, it was there - and he felt like it!! Innit?
(One reply did suggest public flogging on Saturday mornings; I`d go with that one!)
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stevemarl wrote:Okay he IS probably a.... whatever - but that`s NOT why this lad did what he did, he did it because it was nice, it was there - and he felt like it!! Innit?
Hi,
I agree, I sincerely doubt that the youth was making some kind of protest statement because he was concerned about the breach of parking regulations. He just was not bothered of the financial and emotional implications of his actions on the car owner.

I can't make up my mind whether the general public resent successful people or they just don't give any thought to the consequences of their behaviour. I suppose that's the difference between normal folk and these Neanderthals. When I see a nice car I'm full of admiration and aspire to own such a possession. What right-minded person thinks "I know, I'll jump on the bonnet and get my hooligan friends to take a photo and publicise my crime on the internet"?
I'm coming round to the flogging idea, televised of course!

Going back to the original post, obviously I don't agree with the reasons, but you can understand why somebody may steal a car in order to profit financially from the crime. Whereas there is no personal gain whatsoever in jumping on bonnets and setting fire to cars.
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